Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
Now that the firearms genie is out of the bottle, it's near impossible to roll it back - thanks NRA!

The fact is ownership of handguns and (semi)-automatics is bad for society as a whole.
Wiki says that the UN says that the US in only 121st out of 218 countries in rate of intentional homicide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate

Not sure that supports your argument that things here are particularly awful.

Look at the countries with lower rates- they fall into 2 general groups- comparatively small, relatively culturally homogenous (generally western European and Asian) countries (with rates that probably look like large sections of the US, if you could get data that discounted the major cities where most of the crime is), and authoritarian states whose data is at best suspect in my mind.