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    Default Hardly credible

    A comprehensive debunking of this report by Fabius Maximus:http://fabiusmaximus.com/2015/04/20/...mexico-83175/?

    I note his description of the source:
    he disreputable Judicial Watch site, a muckraking organization run by “political activist” Larry Klayman (who issued a press release in October 2014 announcing he was petitioning several federal agencies to deport President Obama, and who has been barred for life by multiple judges for his repetitive misuse of the court system)
    Even Fox News was unimpressed:http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/04...ico-unfounded/
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    Good catch David, I was hoping to get around to peering into judicialwatch to see if they were credible. As Fabius points out, it is a far right propaganda organization managed by an ass clown. ISIL already has access to the U.S. via the internet and its numerous supporters. I don't think anyone in the security business is ignoring the problem, so it is unlikely a blog is provide groundbreaking intelligence. Judicialwatch is just jumping on the Mexican border bandwagon. The border is a major political issue in the U.S., so the left and right spread their half truths to make political hay. It will only get worse with the Presidential election coming up soon.

    There are tens of thousands of Muslims south of our border. I can't recall the latest estimate, but there are approximately 200,000 Muslims in Mexico, with up to half being local converts. If you view every Muslim as a terrorist, then I guess they have terrorist training camps everywhere

    I think the Fox Report quoting the State Department pretty much captures the reality. Our intelligence and law enforcement officials will investigate any report related to terrorist threats and if there is any truth to it. If there is, they'll get after it as non-conspiracy folks will realize when they see the number of terrorist attacks that our security forces have pre-empted.

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    'Far Right', 'enlightened Left', Progressive, whichever - Open Source is ripe with talking heads excreting their personal (or externally funded) bias.

    Guess neither of you saw my other post, chock full of dichotomy.

    http://council.smallwarsjournal.com/...&postcount=401
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    Cited in part:
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamG View Post
    Guess neither of you saw my other post, chock full of dichotomy.

    http://council.smallwarsjournal.com/...&postcount=401
    Yes I did thanks. There is considerable evidence about the radicalisation amongst the Somali-American community in Minneapolis, so the linked report was hardly a surprise. See:http://soufangroup.com/tsg-intelbrie...united-states/
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    I think the cartels would win this fight pretty handily.

    Perhaps ISIS is just looking to diversify its supply from the Beka'a?

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-its-weed.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamG View Post
    'Far Right', 'enlightened Left', Progressive, whichever - Open Source is ripe with talking heads excreting their personal (or externally funded) bias.

    Guess neither of you saw my other post, chock full of dichotomy.

    http://council.smallwarsjournal.com/...&postcount=401
    Adam,

    I did, and I also think eventually we'll see a terror-criminal network nexus south of our border to some extent, but I don't think it will be JudicialWatch breaking the news. I'm certainly not critiquing your post, I actually sent the article to a few folks with the caveat I have no idea how credible JW is.

    If anyone is keeping stats I suspect radicalization within the U.S. is increasing, but that is no more than a hunch based on the unexplained popularity of ISIL.

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    Dave,
    I'm just not particular about who gets used as the stalking horse.

    Quote Originally Posted by tequila View Post
    I think the cartels would win this fight pretty handily.
    The cartels have been moving away from weed as a cash crop, and I'd be more inclined to think that given the right volume of cash, they'd also rent out their pipeline into the US to anyone. It's not like the Cartels have any love for the US .gov.

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    Adam,

    I did, and I also think eventually we'll see a terror-criminal network nexus south of our border to some extent, but I don't think it will be JudicialWatch breaking the news. I'm certainly not critiquing your post, I actually sent the article to a few folks with the caveat I have no idea how credible JW is.

    If anyone is keeping stats I suspect radicalization within the U.S. is increasing, but that is no more than a hunch based on the unexplained popularity of ISIL.
    Ja, ja, I know - but given how stupid the first decade & a half this century has been, I'd not be surprised if a Judicialwatch *was* the one to stumble onto the proverbial smoking burqa in the High Sierra.

    I'll just leave this four year old flashback here with some reading music

    Controversial Muslim cleric is arrested while sneaking into the U.S.

    January 27, 2011|By Richard Marosi, Los Angeles Times
    Deported from Canada to Tunisia three years ago, Muslim cleric Said Jaziri was found hiding in the trunk of a BMW near the Mexican border.

    Reporting from San Diego — U.S. border authorities have arrested a controversial Muslim cleric who was deported from Canada to Tunisia three years ago and was caught earlier this month trying to sneak into California in the trunk of a BMW, according to court documents.
    http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jan...leric-20110127
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    BDA* of the Garland TX clusterfark.

    There seems to be a great deal of skepticism regarding whether or not the suspects were wearing body armor and whether they were armed with “automatic weapons” or “assault rifles” or something else entirely. Other photos from the crime scene suggest answers to those questions as well.

    In the image above, we have drawn an orange rectangle around what appears to be blood-drenched halves of a soft body armor carrier worn by one of the terrorists. Most people don’t seem to grasp that there are multiple grades of soft body armor, that these materials degrade over time, and that the armor panels themselves do not often cover the entire torso, leaving gaps under the arms, below the ribs, and at the neck.
    http://bearingarms.com/pushed-forwar...nd-terrorists/

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    Something that slipped past our radar last September.


    SAN FRANCISCO – An attack last year on Silicon Valley's power grid appears to have involved only one shooter and did not require access to technology or a high degree of training, an FBI official said.
    The incident began when one or more people lifted heavy manhole covers south of San Jose, climbed under the road and cut AT&T fiber optic cables, temporarily knocking out 911 service and phone service, sheriff's officials have said.

    About 15 minutes later, someone fired a high-powered rifle into a nearby PG&E substation, damaging numerous transformers.
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/09/11...others-say-it/

    For the whole backstory, see
    http://council.smallwarsjournal.com/...806#post168806
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    The FBI is looking into a series of deliberate cuts of fiber optic cables in the San Francisco Bay Area.

    In the past year, there were 10 instances on four separate nights when telecom cables were intentionally cut in Fremont, Walnut Creek, Alamo, Berkeley and San Jose, the agency said Monday.
    FBI Special Agent Greg Wuthrich said it's unclear if the incidents are unrelated or the work of a single person or group, but the FBI is keen to hear from anyone who may have witnessed anything suspicious.
    http://www.itworld.com/article/29363...-bay-area.html
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    PHOENIX (AP) -- Calling him "off-the-charts dangerous," authorities outlined the evidence against a Phoenix man who they say helped orchestrate a shootout on an anti-Islam event in Texas and had aspirations to join the Islamic State terrorist organization and attack the Super Bowl.

    Abdul Malik Abdul Kareem, 43, was arrested last week on charges related to the shootout at a Prophet Muhammad cartoon contest that led to the deaths of two roommates from Phoenix. An indictment filed in federal court in Phoenix says Kareem hosted the gunmen in his home beginning in January and provided the guns they used in the May 3 shooting in Garland, Texas.
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    Default Back to the 1970's when terrorism was home-grown

    An American lurker has recommended this book 'Days of Rage: America's Radical Underground, the FBI, and the Forgotten Age of Revolutionary Violence' by Bryan Burrough.

    From the Amazon summary:
    enefiting from the extraordinary number of people from the underground and the FBI who speak about their experiences for the first time, Days of Rage is filled with revelations and fresh details about the major revolutionaries and their connections and about the FBI and its desperate efforts to make the bombings stop. The result is a mesmerizing book that takes us into the hearts and minds of homegrown terrorists and federal agents alike and weaves their stories into a spellbinding secret history of the 1970s.
    Link:http://www.amazon.com/Days-Rage-Unde...bryan+burrough
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    In at least three cities in the last 18 months, drivers have been targeted by “serial shooters,” the term police use to describe a sustained attack by elusive assailants who randomly fire onto busy highways.

    In Kansas City, Mo., police hunted down a green Dodge Neon with Illinois plates. In Colorado, authorities are still on the lookout for a 1970s single-cab orange pickup truck connected to the shooting deaths of two people on a highway.

    Now in Phoenix, another shooter or shooters are following the same general script. Twelve vehicles, from sedans and box trucks to commercial buses, have been hit by BB shots, unknown projectiles and, once, bullets.

    Phoenix drivers were rattled again Thursday with reports of two shootings on a busy stretch of Interstate 10, the 11th and 12th such attacks since Aug. 29.
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    With Pope Francis set to begin his first-ever U.S. visit Tuesday, a document obtained by NBC News shows law enforcement is worried terrorists may impersonate police officers, firefighters and EMTs to launch deadly attacks inside the U.S.

    A memo distributed by the Pennsylvania State Police's Criminal Intelligence Center to law enforcement warns that imposters pretending to be first responders could use false identification to enter secure areas and wreak havoc before slipping away undetected.

    "The impersonators' main goals are to further their attack plan and do harm to unsuspecting citizens as well as members of the emergency services community," said the bulletin, titled "First Responder Impersonators: The New Terrorist Threat."
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    From the Memory Hole, some perspective -

    the deadliest school-related massacre in American history happened in 1927, at an elementary school in Bath, Mich. A school board member named Andrew Kehoe, upset over a burdensome property tax, wired the building with dynamite and set it off in the morning of May 18. Kehoe’s actions killed 45 people, 38 of whom were children.
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    The FBI has issued a nationwide warning about a possible attack against law enforcement on Halloween night.
    CBS News reports that according to the warning, members of a group known as the National Liberation Militia may be planning to dress up in Halloween costumes and create incidents that would cause a police response. Members who would also be carrying bricks and guns would then ambush police as part of what the group calls a “Halloween Revolt,” the alert reportedly said.
    Read More: FBI warning: Halloween terror threat targets police | http://nj1015.com/fbi-warning-hallow...ckback=tsmclip
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    Default San Bernardino

    I storified all the tweets on my TL about San Bernadino. I think they may be of some interest.
    I am "happy" (happy is not really the word) that I got it more right than not..

    https://storify.com/omarali50/san-be...ror-the-horror

    Some of these themes obviously deserve a more detailed look. Maybe later this weekend.

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    The sky is falling reporting is exactly what our adversaries desire. At the end of the day terrorism is theater, and our politicians and media have made this attack a Broadway hit. We'll never escape this self defeating behavior in a democracy where everything will be exploited for political gain. We need leaders that can provide a balanced response, not ignore or inflate, but rationally address the challenge.

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    Angry No Way!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    This is pure NYT PC Propaganda and it is nothing but an attack on our Constitution, which they do not like. Most of these attacks are drug/gang related and most are black on black!!!!! go get the raw data!!!!! Also DOJ reports gun violence (murder) has and is on a multi-year decline.

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