Quote Originally Posted by slapout9 View Post
The military needs a plain clothes division
No issues with that. It worked for T.E. Lawrence.

True, but really don't you need to do both?which is why I say get local population envolved as soon as possible.
Yes. You need both. A broader question, particularly going back to A'stan, is

When is our presence patrolling counter-productive? Throughout this thread, we're explaining how we will or should patrol, but ultimately, it's up to the host nation to secure. We may run the risk in certain areas of A'stan of causing more problems when we flood an area.

Mike