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    Default Rand Studies re Civilian COIN

    Steve.

    Who writes that stuff? The authors I recognized spent their tours in Baghdad in the friendly confines of the Republican Palace.

    see also Imperial Life in the Emerald City, but don't buy a copy.

    Guess my biases are all out on the table now.

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    Ross:

    That's what it looks like to me.

    Lot's of money in them there think tanks afterwards, too.

    I think I was in the embassy a few times, usually on the way to somewhere that you could actually see and learn things...

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    Default Now Zad, Now What?

    OK.

    Here's a good test.

    Press coverage indicates that the battle of Now Zad,second largest town in Helmand is complete and they are just mopping up now.

    Clear is done, lots of refugees fled.

    Now what comes next?

    Steve

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    Default Amateur attempt

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve the Planner View Post

    Here's a good test.

    Press coverage indicates that the battle of Now Zad,second largest town in Helmand is complete and they are just mopping up now.

    Clear is done, lots of refugees fled.

    Now what comes next?

    Steve
    I'll bite. Cognizant that we want civil, government, and security activities to occur simultaneously, I would start by positioning FOBs, COPs and OPs around Now Zad that are mutually supporting and adjacent to the population. I would collocate ANA/ANP and U.S. security personnel in each of the FOB and platoon (+) sized COP. Also would position OPs in between the COPs and FOBs with vehicle crew-served weapon firing positions available at each protected by HESCO.

    Looking at this maplandia photo of Now Zad, where would the best locations for the FOB and COP be based on both METT-TC and ASCOPE:

    http://www.maplandia.com/afghanistan/helmand/now-zad/

    I might suggest putting the FOB in the open area and inch and a half north of the blue dot at the end of the diagonal main street appearing to run through town. On the southern end of town and that diagonal road, would take over the entire compound of buildings and courtyards that sits alone at the end of the road, to create a COP. Just east of the zoom tool in an L-shaped open area inside the town, would create another COP. Midway along the west end of town in the open desert south of the zoom tool would create a COP. On the east side of town about 4 inches from the west COP would position another COP in the open area close to the town, but not too close.

    Would construct tall towers at each COP and FOB with video surveillance to ensure coverage of much of the town. Would place a QRF in the FOB in the center of town. Construction of that large FOB with interior helicopter landing area would facilitate resupply. Might consider building housing for government civilians, civilian aid workers, and contractors within that FOB. Might consider building or walling in housing adjacent to the FOB for families of locally recruited Pashtun Soldiers who return to town looking for work and a place to live.

    Would build girl's schools next to each COP and FOB with women's clinics adjacent to each. Would encourage mothers to bring their girls to school where the mothers can get medical help next door. Waiting rooms for moms with televisions would provide information messages that will be passed along to husbands. All employees in the girl's school and clinic would be women. Male doctors might provide televised advice to clinic personnel and televisions in classrooms would help teach students. Hot meals prepared at COPs and FOBs would also be provided for school breakfast and lunch to encourage attendance. Other grains and raw foods might be handed out to mothers on a limited basis.

    Would include wind turbines and solar power panels at each COP and FOB and large generators to power both the FOB/COP and adjacent neighborhoods eventually, with nearby government offices and schools/clinics receiving power initially.

    How does that sound for someone tempting William F. Owens wrath about seeing something work in theory given my novice awareness of COIN?

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    Cole:

    I'll leave Wilf or the great Ken to address military.

    First, this seems like a very managable scale for a perfect civilian exercise.

    Stabilize the existing population. Bring in additional clinics and food, humanitarian services at the outset? Secure and reopen what markets can be reopened now? Start development of a small-scale school system? Solar to get street lights, etc...?

    OK. So, first essential and human services. Bring back (and vet) the old "government?" Now how to attract returnees and address damage?

    Is enough enough then?

    Do you hold tight with that, or move on to fancier development initiatives?

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    Default Now Zad...

    As a civilian reconstruction type, I'd be interested, while house-to-houses are going on, in getting as much local population, social and econ information as possible, embedded with questions of: Do you need help? Is there a food supply? What is most important to get reopened? How many houses were damaged? What resources exist/are needed to rebuild?

    I'm pretty interested in the hinterland---ag types, markets, resources.

    Assuming that it is a great place from which to distribute bad stuff (prssure plates, etc...), I assume the town has some basic market-serving functions too. What were they? What would it take to bring them back? What basic levels of government and/or community control needs to be in place?

    I'm increasingly becoming concerned that we may "over-build" some of these places with stuff that can't be sustained, absent the LaLa Land of Foreign Aid, and isn't wanted or needed. Where is the line of "good enough" in a rural village, or small region-serving town?

    My guess, too, is that once a basic Phase I stabilization, inventory, repair job is done, the next level of serious development, if warranted, is going to need to be left to some "higher" program (USAID, NGOs?), so that the military does not become unproductively engaged in town building, and is free for the next challenge.

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    Default Got to zoom in

    Noticed the link does not default to the same zoom or screen position that my initial description was based on....which perhaps is for the better from an OPSEC standpoint.

    Guess most of the door-to-door searching pertains to looking for bombs since the city that once had 30,000 is currently pretty deserted. Not sure how you get folks to return but by having the FOB, COPs, and OPs in place beforehand, and other building started or adapted when empty, you would have the makings of a future Marine-protected ink spot.

    Anecdotally, I have several relatives who home school and the smartest pair of mothers have created really smart kids. Another in-law with less education was far less successful. If mothers could be taught in parallel classes in their daughter's school and given learning materials, they could assist their children's learning and long term Helmand province development.

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