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    The Right Has Avatar Wrong From the CATO Institute

    Forget its left-wing themes. At its core, the movie is about defending property rights — something conservatives should embrace.

    But conservatives have focused on the ideas that the film embodies. In National Review, Frederica Mathewes-Green mocked its dreamy vision of "the apparently eternal conflict between gentle people with flowers in their hair and technology-crazed meanies."
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    Default Scientologists in space...

    "Even in someone else’s society the American is the chosen one. He’s going to come in, lead your army, #### your princesses, and just generally save the day for you. Got it? This is how we do it."

    I haven't seen it, and more than likely won't (can't stand Cameron and never watch anything that has been so hyped up that I feel like I've seen it already anyway) but...sounds a lot like Last Samurai (in Space)!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tukhachevskii View Post
    can't stand Cameron
    You didn't like Aliens? (One of the) best science fiction movies. Ever.
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    And what's wrong with T2 or the original Terminator?

    I haven't seen Dances with Navi and probably won't, but Cameron can shoot a good action film. Seriously, compare his stuff with crap like Michael Bay.

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    Default Clarification re:Cameron

    Yes: loved T1, hated T2 (for a Terminator Arnie did precious little terminating)

    Yes: loved Aliens.

    No: Can't stand Cameron (too "schmalzy" for my liking especially with Titanic) but, OTOH, I have recently seen Transformers (1&2) and have to say that Bay did a good job in terms of action (on the narrative side, not so much).

    As for the portrayal of the military in Hollywood I would like to see soemthing "righteous and hopefull" for a change

    Anyway, I hear that one of my boyhood comic favourites is comming to the big screen soon (hopefully, not the disaster that Judge Dredd was).......i.e., Rogue Trooper.

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    Default The Military, celluloid and product placement...

    Now I'm on my hobby horse....

    I was struck by the "product placement" the military or the M-I-C manages to accomplish especially in recent films.

    1. Die Hard 4 features an implausible chase sequence towards the end featuring the F-35 JSF (I had always favoured the Boeing model, if you were wondering, but scales of economy are as important I suppose)

    2. In the rebooted Transformers Starscream in now as F-22 (previously an F-15 if I recall correctly) and in the final action sequence in the first film a group of squaddies or SOF operators desparately call for air support from an ... F-22 rather than A-10s which, IMO, would be perfectly adequate in the Transformer-busting role The SOF operators are also lavishly equipped with Milkor MGL-40s.

    3. Similarly, I watched District 9 last night (IMO one of the best Sci-fi films I have seen in a long while). Yet, in the deleted scenes, there is a short segment, only 20 secs or so, where a PMC operator attached to MNU grabs a Denel-PAW20 20mm grenade launcher from his truck, oogles it appreciatively (or erotically if you're a gun lover), and then runs off to join the firefight with an alien "mech".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tukhachevskii View Post
    As for the portrayal of the military in Hollywood I would like to see soemthing "righteous and hopefull" for a change
    Although loath to quote myself an exampleof the above would be something like a faithful rendition of Heinlien's Starship Troopers rather than that abomination that Verhoeven turned it into. Or like those old WWII classics I grew up with..... I would love Vulcan 607 (a book about the famous long range bomber attack of Port Stanley by "antiquated" Vulcan bombers during the Falklands War)turned into a film for instance in the vein of the dambusters or Mosquito Sqn (you get the drift). (At the expense of turning into a reviewer form Empire magazine all rants are hereby expended...for now)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tukhachevskii View Post
    As for the portrayal of the military in Hollywood I would like to see soemthing "righteous and hopefull" for a change
    Tarentino could do a historically accurate flick about "Rogers' Rangers".

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