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    Default Good post, thanks.

    We do the same sorts of thing down here but we throw more money at them so they're always an even bigger foul up...

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    Other soldiers say they aren't used that often in Afghanistan, a signal that the weapon's time has come and gone.

    Why not? When the enemy frequently engages you from distances near or beyond the max effective range of your small arms, what could be better than an easily portable mortar system for returning the love? (Note: I am assuming a dismounted force w/o vehicle-mounted HMGs.)
    An issue of PID? Things changed post 2002...seems like we are back to post 9/11 over there now. Somewhere in-between 2002 and 2007, I could see the requirement for PID and concerns over P of I factors being as much an issue as they currently are right now in the theater next door.

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    The M224 is a great 60mm mortar. I was OJT'd on it way back when I was a Pvt. Stayed in Mortar section for the whole float.
    Super accurate, I've hit dumpsters past a klick on the first shot, easy to use, and once you're trained up on it, very fast to open fire.
    Its rapid fire is limited by humped ammo but it is still more useful than a humped AGL.
    Illum is a good example of it's usefulness.
    The Op Anaconda is an excellent example of it's niche.
    Light infantry, long supply train, intermittent air support etc.
    When I hated humping it I thought about the 81 guys in Weapons Co.

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    Could the requirement to drop 60mm mortars been a poison pill by the treasury board to force the army to give up the grenade launchers?

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    It seems that most times, whenever a Commonwealth military requires a new piece of kit - especially "small-ticket" items - it has to fight tooth and nail for it. And at the end, if it has won, the Government presents it with a "one or the other" dilemna; if you want this new piece of kit, fine, but you have to give up something else. Cut off a leg to gain an arm.

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    The "small ticket" items don't have major defense contractors lobbying every single legislator for it.

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