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Ran into this in a newsletter I receive. It is also very relevant to NATO.
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views differ for various reasons, discussed here.
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The 3-15 year sentence range for treason and espionage (noted in OP and in above article) seems a bit light - no.
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Not too sure how to comment here as I worked right next door to him for several years. Honestly, the only thing I ever saw pass his desk was EFTO
![]() Our PFP and subsequent NATO days had me pining away for a job at the local kindergarten (although the free trips to Paris and Brussels were not that bad during the winter months). He may (now) be a modern day Russian puke, but a spy and seller of secrets? If he and his better half get 15 years, they'll both have died of natural causes before their time runs out. Gotta be something better to do with them than tie up the judiciary system, having 60 year-old folk watching videos in prison
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So, I'll wait on the evidence - realizing that US prosecutors usually do not pull the trigger on these cases unless they have good evidence - the case itself raises too much bad PR for the nation to be other than very careful. Quote:
If they are guilty (which I would not directly ask them), their solution is to work a plea bargain - giving up everything they know. If they are candid, damage assessment is easier and would justify a lighter sentence. You're right about another thing - facing prison in your 60s ain't the way to go.
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The latest in the Simm case made it to the papers this morning. Declaring Simm received 1,000 euros a month (but without indicating just how long he had received payments, or, how he received them).
The Interior Minister is quoted as saying Simm did not lead a luxurious lifestyle, but continued, that one can purchase smaller things and need not purchase land to be rich. The amount of these payments has now cast doubt among both the defense and prosecuting attorneys as quoted in Õhtuleht. EDIT: Yet another paper (considered the source of the above article) indicates that the justice department would not have arrested Simm based on the facts above. Päevaleht also discloses Simm's MOD salary and Police pension. Both figures much larger than what he is accused of secretly receiving. Not looking good for a spy novel !
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there (must be ?) (should be ?) more meat.
1. His real estate holdings (much cited in initial articles) seem to be family, at least in part: Quote:
2. As to the money, the English language article is too laconic - here As I glean Estonian (which ain't much), the key parts to the money story are here: Quote:
-------------- Odd that he would have admitted to the espionage as some stories have said. Wonder if that is true ?
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