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This generic list was part of a module to make visible the exisiting prejudices living amongst personnel of both organizations working in mission areas
![]() Military vs Civilians Disciplined vs Independent Hierarchical vs Decentralised Command & Control vs Consensus & Agreement Whole career training vs On the Job training Doctrinal Publications vs Few field manuals End State Approach vs Long Term View Objectives driven by politics vs driven by humanitarian concerns Extension of State vs State Extension of State vs State free Extension of State vs Multilateral Extension of State vs Governmental Extension of State vs Intergovernmental Extension of State vs Non Governmental Hierarchical vs Non Hierarchical Tradition rich vs Tradition rich ![]() Formal vs Informal Doctrinal vs Principles Rigid vs Ad-hoc Highly Structured vs Loosely Configured Boys with Toys vs Non Guided Organizations Rigid vs Children of the Sixties Authoritarian vs Flaky do gooders Conservative vs undisciplined Impatient vs unpunctual Civilian Phobic vs anarchic Excessively Security Conscious vs self righteous Militaristic vs anti military |
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Boy, that sounds like it's trying to get a heavy-handed reaction out of each side by accentuating as much of the negativity on either list.
Was it put together by 10th-graders?
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I rather look on it as a military version of apartheid (and I am retired Army)
Last edited by Tom Odom; 03-16-2009 at 02:15 PM. |
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is the fact that the list lumps all civilian organizations together. That is also a problem with the military organization side although not as pronounced - even the Air Force shares a military culture and language.
But civilian organizations really do come in all shapes and sizes. The culture of civilian govt bureaucracy is quite different from that of private sector bureaucracy. And all bureaucratic organizations differ greatly from many NGOs....So, without some differentiation among kinds of organizations, I would not find this module particularly helpful because the discussion it is likely to provoke may tend to reinforce stereotypes a nd oversimplify a really complex issue. Cheers JohnT |
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You are all correct in your comments. This is a compilation of existing prejudices
![]() As in this thread, it never fails to generate fantastic discussions between all parties (intra-military, IOs, NGOs), breaking the ice. Because one gets to know one another, co-existence slowly turns into cooperation. |
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