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    Default CCTV footage is NOT used to detect crime

    The UK has millions of private and public CCTV cameras, covering public and private spaces. Policing has for at least fifteen years placed incredible reliance on obtaining usable footage to investigate crimes, now a formet Met officer has "blown the whistle":
    Thousands of crimes in London are going unsolved because police are failing to fully investigate CCTV footage, a former senior Met detective claimed today. Mick Neville, a former detective chief inspector, said that despite billions of pounds being spent on CCTV cameras by companies and individuals, images were not routinely collected by police.
    Both links are the same. The original newspaper report:http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...-a3442416.html


    From an advocacy group:https://www.bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/m...-cctv-footage/
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    Default UK Armed Policing

    A reply to Simon Chesterman's article (Post ) by Professor Punch on 'Policing Insight' website, alas you need to register to view. He raises a host of issues.
    Link:https://policinginsight.com/opinion/...n/#comment-557

    As we are learning from a public inquiry in Liverpool, led by Judge Teague, into a fatal shooting by officers from Greater Manchester Police (aka GMP and England's 2nd largest force) in March 2012, in Cheshire a “coach & horses” are being driven through what senior police officers have been saying.
    Why? Here is the inquiry counsel:
    The position is that of the five officers in a command role on the 3rd of March 2012 there are problems with the operation and occupational competency of four of them’ and the paper refers to ‘four of the five senior officers in charge of the operation did not have the correct training, and one had failed a firearms course.
    Then and probably citing an IPCC report:
    That intelligence “did not support a reasonable view” that Grainger was violent, possessed firearms or was involved in armed robberies, the IPCC found in 2013, and it questioned whether the tactics used were “necessary or proportionate to the risk in this situation”
    From: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...e-intelligence
    If a large metropolitan police service, like GMP, did this can the public trust reassurances from other, mainly smaller forces? GMP is known to have had serious problems with armed criminality, including the murder of two police constables.
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    Default Arming the UK Police

    An academic article that argues firearms wold be a "step too far" and even a greater issue of Taser has problems. It ends with:
    When it comes to police weaponisation, international research offers clear guidance. Although many police officers feel they may be safer if they are permitted to carry weapons, in reality they might not be.
    Link:https://theconversation.com/police-prefer-to-carry-tasers-but-would-that-make-anyone-safer-71646?
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    Default Greater Manchester Police: My time on the beat

    A short report by a BBC reporter who embedded with the police in Manchester for three months, but didn't do the paperwork. Here are two sentences:
    Over these months, I've seen police officers working under immense pressure with no margin for error, in situations that most of us will never be exposed to. Those officers who do this are not normal. They are brave and sometimes they're heroic.
    Link:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...ester-47979314
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    Default Criminals going unpunished because of cuts, says police chief

    A public comment by my local Chief Constable which reinforces my view that policing here is broken. So what did he say?
    We are not always able to take the fight to the criminals in the way we would want – in some routine cases, the delays and stretch are resulting in charges not being brought as they would have years ago.
    The public know that serious organised crime and counter-terrorism are important. What is cheesing off the public is the routine stuff. That’s the stuff for the vast majority that affects legitimacy and confidence. It’s the phone not getting answered, and not turning up for some jobs people expect us to do. That is damaging confidence and legitimacy.
    Link:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-police-chief?

    Part of the problem, money aside, is the police's reluctance, if not refusal, to publicly say "We do not do that now". Then they say "x" is a priority or we have officers patrolling your area - when in reality there are none.

    Here is a Met (London) constable's anonymous commentary:https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...fe-crime-cuts?
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