Quote Originally Posted by carl View Post
in 1850 and for a long time after there was still a frontier in the US. There wasn't in Europe.
Depends on whether one counts the whole of Russia in such statistics.


So that is what has gone wrong in the recent past, the collapse of the black family has resulted in a murder rate in the black community that is wildly disproportionate with the rest of the US.
Others (who rather don't work in 'values'-centric organisations) tend to point a lot at drugs, or the 'war' on the same.
One could also point at a crisis of the middle class or at urbanisation, albeit neither is really unique to the US.