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    Quote Originally Posted by 91bravojoe View Post
    Manning is doing hard time right now. For releasing the truth.
    Ummm...

    No.

    Manning is in pre-trial confinement for compromising classified information. This action is treason. Treason is perpetrated by traitors.

    It is also worth noting that the Al-Qaeda manual found in Britain directs their members to claim abuse at the hands of captors at the first chance they get.

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    This is al-Qa'eda Rule 18: 'You must claim you were tortured'

    Terrorist Training Manual

    Manning has disgraced the uniform and country we represent and hold dear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan View Post
    Manning has disgraced the uniform and country we represent and hold dear.
    Yes, but for pity sake get on with the prosecution...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMA View Post
    Yes, but for pity sake get on with the prosecution...
    An American legal proceeding happening fast? Why that would be un-American!
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    On the 1/10 of 1% chance that jcustis was serious:

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=phoenix+program+in+afghanistan

    Included in the sumptuous buffet:

    http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/07/28/ci...m-flies-again/

    a treatment otherwise characterized by its gross dishonesty in describing what Phoenix actually was.

    Or:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Terrain_System

    describing “mercenary anthropology” as another term for identifying local respected citizens and then murdering them. To win an ally!

    Or:

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig11/valentine4.1.1.html

    describing the incredibly bungled Phoenix and Chieu Hoi programs, and concluding with:

    And while the CIA relies on cartoons to sell itself, the Taliban go from person to person, proving that technology is no substitute for human contact. Ultimately the U.S. was defeated in Vietnam for just this reason.

    The Taliban defector buyout program heralds just such a development in Afghanistan – defeat – and nothing more.
    One of you described a press release after a murder of 4 Afghanistan civilians as a "mistake". Do you really not understand that a "mistake" is always what is offered first, and then withdrawn after somebody finds out what actually happened? I suppose you think the Iraq runup was a "mistake".

    Another one of you said that Manning had some involvement with "treason". Here is what Manning is charged with:

    http://www.bradleymanning.org/news/r...radley-manning

    Manning was later charged with "aiding the enemy". Ha ha. I'm sure there is somebody here who can tell us which enemy is that.

    The little Bush administration decided they didn't like Valerie Plame Wilson. She had been working on counter-proliferation of nuclear weapons for many years, specializing in the Iranian and Iraq programs. So they blew her cover, endangered any assets she had recruited, and caused her operation to be shut down.

    How many of you want to argue that Bradley Manning did more harm to the national interest than the Bush criminal cartel in the Plame case?
    Last edited by Jedburgh; 04-26-2011 at 11:13 AM. Reason: Tone it down.

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    Let's all take a deep breath and tone down the attacks, shall we? If that proves impossible, this thread will be locked for a "cooling down" period. Thanks.
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    Fact: Somewhere along the line the soldier in question signed an oath.

    Most of us have done it and many of us still do.

    There is no gray line with foggy misunderstandings abound. The acts committed are just wrong regardless of how we decide to label them.
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