Quote Originally Posted by blueblood View Post
That place is becoming more and more useless every passing day. People, regardless of nationality keep on bickering.

It depends on what you consider as "involvement". Building roads for afghans and giving them thousands of visas every year.

For last four years I been hearing about the involvement of RAW in every darn thing that happened in Pak. With no sort of evidence at all. I am not even saying that you present these evidences to India. But you can present them to China or US or Saudi Arabia or to anyone for all I care.
Make China or Saudi Arabia say that India is "involved".

I am not saying that RAW is an angel but you got show it that it is not.
PDF is a lost cause, like most things Pakistani, so let's leave that aside.




What you describe as the positive aspects of Indian involvement are exactly what the ISI honchos are most afraid of, since it is this soft power that will make the coercive nature of Pakistani support superfluous over time for the Afghan people.

The claims of R&AW involvement in every adverse event is Pakistan are merely a manifestation of the India-centric mindset that has been so carefully constructed over the decades that even those who should know better are falling for it, so please do not think much of it.

As the realization sets in that not only is the concept of strategic depth dead (not that it ever was alive), but the socioeconomic rot has become irreversible, it would not be beyond the realm of possibility that ill-thought out misadventures would be seen as last ditch efforts to save the state by drawing in other players by virtue of blackmail.

Those panicked jerks will fail as before, but all this will take perhaps another decade to play out slowly.

In the meantime, let's see what are the formal recommendations of the Parliamentary National Security Committee are for restarting the bilateral relationship with USA, with another desperate plea to consider Kashmir as a quid pro quo for helping with post withdrawal Afghanistan.

That too has no realistic chances of success.

Yes, the coming couple of years are not looking good for Pakistan at all.