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    This would indeed indicate that there are internal problems within China as some claimed.

    Rotting From Within
    Investigating the massive corruption of the Chinese military.

    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/article...thin?page=full


    How far this would be correct, one wonders.
    Corruption is rampant at every level in China; it's by no means confined to the military. It's getting a lot of attention right now due to the Bo Xilai scandal, but it's been well known for a long time.
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    I recently watched this docu, which I found very interesting even though I knew much of the narrative. It strongly reminds me of the saying that the only thing worse than being exploited by capitalism is not be to be exploited by it. Some gains in efficiency and the resulting rise in wealth were certainly amazing, the fruits of a giving people the chance to better their status quo on their merits. Of course the spirit of those who just took the chance, like the people of Xiao Gang was quite amazing and drive by dire need. That they signed a legal pact among each other to support the those and their families who might get imprisoned or killed by the state carries some sad irony with it. (Such reactions are of course not unique, but rather common if not so overt)

    Sustaining China's Economic Growth was eye-opening for me, especially concerning the implication of cultural differences, the (lack) of a good financial system and the lack of a social security net on things like the MPC or MPS (marginal prop. to consume/save) and the way to invest.
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    Default Useful and non-hysterical article on China and rare earths...

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    Default The Eurasian Land Bridge

    Link to article by F.William Engdahl about the high speed train line being built from China all the way to the English Channel and how this help China's prosperity into the next century.

    http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.ne...y%20Europe.pdf

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    It belongs to China

    The Scarborough Shoal does belong to China which discovered it and drew it in a map as early as 1279 during the Yuan Dynasty.

    http://manilastandardtoday.com/2012/...ongs-to-china/

    China map lays claim to Americas

    A map due to be unveiled in Beijing and London next week may lend weight to a theory a Chinese admiral discovered America before Christopher Columbus.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl...9236/img/1.jpg
    Therefore, the world belongs to China!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dayuhan View Post
    Corruption is rampant at every level in China; it's by no means confined to the military. It's getting a lot of attention right now due to the Bo Xilai scandal, but it's been well known for a long time.
    Don't they establish a tradition of annual quasi-summary executions of low and middle level party officials and bureaucrats for corruption? IIRC something like that has been going on for years.

    China map lays claim to Americas

    A map due to be unveiled in Beijing and London next week may lend weight to a theory a Chinese admiral discovered America before Christopher Columbus.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl...9236/img/1.jpg
    This is certainly of great interest for sociologists, psychologists and political scientists.

    Such a fake can easily be disproved with a simple C14 analysis, and much of the map is simply not believable for a critically thinking modern (wo)man. Whom are they trying to fool and why don't they get that phony BS is a rather poor representative for a great country? It's as if Manhattan was built by Hollywood fake building producers, all Potemkim-style fakes.

    On top of that, jingoism can be really harmful to a country that needs to address major domestic issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuchs View Post
    Don't they establish a tradition of annual quasi-summary executions of low and middle level party officials and bureaucrats for corruption? IIRC something like that has been going on for years.
    They do, but it's less about corruption than about falling out of favor or stepping on the wrong toes. Corruption is always a convenient excuse to get rid of someone, especially since the accusation is always true, since practically everyone in government is corrupt. It's well known on the street and the level of cynicism is proportionally high.
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    If China's philosophy is to get rid of its detractors (domestic) by hook or by crook i.e. without any scruples or tenets of law, then why the razzmatazz being trotted out to make one to believe that China is a nation working overtime towards global harmony and peace.

    Would they not be equally unscrupulous and thus, not taken at face value?
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    Default An established fact ...

    from Ray
    Therefore, the world belongs to China!
    since 2002, when Gavin Menzies published "1421" (Amazon link, Menzies Wiki and a less charitable analysis).

    Re: BBC World Map (Link1 and Link2 - of many).

    As my favorite old judge once said: "Some humor has to be injected into these proceedings; otherwise, they become too serious."

    Ya gotta love those Hans if you're an Indian (of either kind).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    If China's philosophy is to get rid of its detractors (domestic) by hook or by crook i.e. without any scruples or tenets of law, then why the razzmatazz being trotted out to make one to believe that China is a nation working overtime towards global harmony and peace.

    Would they not be equally unscrupulous and thus, not taken at face value?
    All nations claim to be working toward global harmony and peace, even those who whack their detractors (though those accused of corruption in China are not necessarily "detractors", often just those who wound up on the wrong side of internecine power struggles) and those who invade countries whose governments they dislike.
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    China's South Sea Claims: Fact or Fiction?


    http://www.cpamedia.com/politics/chi...th_sea_claims/

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    I think it's probably a fact that the earliest existing historical records of the various shoals and islands in the SCS are Chinese. Whether or not that constitutes a valid claim of ownership, or whether it's more valid than, say, claims based on geographical proximity (based on UNCLOS recognition of exclusive economic zones, among other things), is a matter of opinion and to some extent of international law, not sure it's possible to say that's a question of fact or fiction.

    As a matter of historical precedent, such things have belonged to whoever can take and hold them.
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