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But where will these troops come from? I don't see them coming from Nigeria.
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Link to ECOWAS membership:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economi...African_States I have ignored "interested parties" offering far more than logistic help, yes hiring ECOWAS troops. One wonders if any Africans involved in this matter have pondered whether the odium piled upon Executive Outcomes was a mistake.
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Counter-coup attempt under way in Mali
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I suppose it was only a matter of time, as the destruction of the Bamiyan sculptures showed in Afghanistan, but in Mali things move faster.
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Africa hasn't seen a US commerce secretary in 12 years. Meanwhile, US Army generals visit every month.
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Nor have events in Mali been without loss for the USA, edited down and dated 20th April 2012 (thanks to a SWC reader):
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Seems like the World has forgotten Mali and is resigned to two states - Mali in the South and "Azawad" in the North.
The longer Azawad remains a de-facto state, the more difficult it would be to reverse the situation on the ground. In any case, it is a sign of things to come. |
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This was a question asked by KingJaja a few days ago.
Given the state of flux inside Mali, one could reverse the question. Has Mali forgotten the World? ![]() I am uncertain that there are reporters in situ in Bamako and certain that no-one is in the rebellious north. Maybe specialists are producing reports and these simply don't reach the BBC for example. Today there is this report, note without a byline:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-collapse.html One hopes that in Mali there are wise minds applied to encouraging the two groups to diverge; one thing is for certain the diplomatic noises of ECOWAS will only be heard by ECOWAS. A more strategic 'ungoverned spaces' article, hat tip to Carl Prine, by an ex-CIA operator: http://www.andmagazine.com/content/phoenix/12253.html I am not convinced about his title and this sentence: Quote:
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First there were reports of conflict between Tuareg MNLA rebels and the Ansar Dine Islamist group (aligned to AQIM), two weeks ago and my previous post:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18104236
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Worth reading the blog piece by a FT journalist who has been on the ground:http://blogs.ft.com/the-world/2012/0...-rice-on-mali/ Almost sounds like 'divide and rule' is alive and well. Hopefully the locals can resolve this themselves, with the odd nudge from outside - preferably by those who know the ground, yes 'Uncle Sam' that might not be you.
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An article by Andrew Lebovich on Al-Wasat blog as he explains, with plenty of links:
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I remain unconvinced that such a desolate, thinly populated area with very few external links requires an external - let alone a US - response.
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I am sure the news from Timbucktu has intruded with a reminder that the distant past can affect today, as reported by the BBC for example:
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Plus the diplomatic froth over intervention:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18728950 Paul Rogers has a review piece, with good points on keeping out being made:http://www.opendemocracy.net/paul-ro...d-intervention He notes: Quote:
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Intervening in Mali: West African Nations Plan Offensive against Islamists and Tuareg Rebels
Publication: Terrorism Monitor Volume: 10 Issue: 13 July 5, 2012 08:00 AM Age: 2 days By: Andrew McGregor http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_...af0a9045e8997a Quote:
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sex with African prostitutes can result in drastically diminished combat effectiveness.
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Yes another FP article on intervention in Mali, the authors is:
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I have always considered Algeria the key nation regarding the use of coercion in the Sahel, including Mali. The other four nations have interests, capability and IMHO insufficient political will to deploy - kidnapping / hostage rescue excepted.
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