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http://www.tradingeconomics.com/euro...lance-of-trade Any look at Europe as if it's sick as a whole is laughable.There's no unusual problem on the whole. Someday we will probably figure out how to tax correctly to finance the public services. To issue bonds instead of just grabbing the necessary revenue looks like a comfortable way for politicians, but it's clearly an inferior alternative. The free capital flows to exotic countries and the international competition among labour has supposedly made it difficult to tax rigorously, but the more detailed you look at it, the more this assumption becomes implausible. |
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Well I have already written that in Italy you can pretty much graph the the rise of public sector employees along the north-south axis. As you can for the auto blu, the absentismo, legally blind and highschool marks. The south has just more of almost everything, not only the sun light.
The Corriere run yesterday an article about the surprising increase in productivity of a harbour in the deep South which was on the verge of a collapse. In this case la "Santa Fifa" ("holy fear") seemed to do the local economy good. There is without any shade of doubt a vast potential for productivity which has to be unlocked. Italy needs many deep political and economical reforms and may a cultural one as well. Ideally there also would be strong deficit spending and lower taxes on the work force but we have managed to gets us into a tight bind in which escape becomes very difficult.
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...and make this week's ECB meeting fruitful?
Eurozone break-up would trigger £1 trillion of QE, see banks nationalised and deep recession, warns Fathom, By Philip Aldrick1:16PM BST 31 Jul 2012, The Telegraph, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/f...ns-Fathom.html Quote:
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To be honest reading the papers recently reminds me of the boy who cried wolf. In this case the wolf is ever present and certainly very dangerous, but it is a tiresome business to keep watch.
Why a country like the UK which can finance itself for basically nothing does not invest in such hard times is beyond me. It is obvious that the private sector has been fueled too much for too long and is, as basic macro predicts, enough unable to adjust itself smoothly. Those able to spend should spend - wisely for the own good. In this case the UK is more then Germany able to help others by helping itself. A weak Euro would actually help the Eurozone quite a bit, sadly the internal "spread" will harldy be changed by external devaluation with the healthy & productive economies gaining most from it. But every bit helps, especially in the very cost-critical sectors in which the Italian and Spanish companies competed against countries with different currencies.
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It is curious that 'progress towards resolution' only appears to occur when the financial hobgoblins run free and terrorize all.
It's probably quite naive on my part, but I often wonder why the big five (Germany, France, UK, Spain, and Italy) can't just sit down together, develop a coherent (and lean) plan, run it through the democratic process, and just get it done. Yes, there have been nineteen official get-togethers, numerous referendums...yet here we all are, still skipping along the edge of financial armageddon. Stone soup: the UK has some heavy duty financial expertise, Germany has it's east/west unification experience...and everybody has engineers who love to build things ![]() Then again, who am I to say anything...my congress (the 112th in particular) still can't get it together either... ...maybe it's all the lawyers and the decided lack of engineers in Washington?
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The coalition for reasons that elude my level of understanding have embarked on Quantitative Easing (QE), printing electronic money which is then sold to the banks who then use the cheap cash to lend - 375billion UK Pounds to date. Even with the rate of interest being 0.5% there is little sign the banks are lending. This may explain:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15198789 The coalition continues to press for reductions in public spending, for ideological and other reasons - especially avoiding pension payment liability. It does announce major capital projects, notably railways, all of which have long lead times and are unlikely to impact the current economy / employment rates.
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Some countries have managed to bring themselve into a very tight bind, like Italy with terrible policies, both public and private ones. The UK has had too much easy credit, possibly too much of a public sector boom with all the strings attached but it still has far more room to maneuver to a great deal thanks to that electronic printing press delivering virtual pound sterling. It has relative high unemployment and should act on it. The big recent austerity policy is mostly about cutting into the flesh of the nation. The aim can be arguably correct but the means of getting there are terrible even in the longer term. Indeed the current crisis has been going on for an amazing amount of time with the economy going south again from a low level. P.S: As most heavily taxed Italian I'm strongly in favoured in much more reduced Italian public sector because I know how that money gets sometimes spent even here in the more "European" north. And how Monti can call the current tax increases here and there and there again "spending review" (in neoitalian) beggars belief.
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It's not important what Gabriel says. Next week he'll say something very different.
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He may also be off-message and or out of synch depending upon one's viewpoint...
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The entire opposition's position about the fiscal crisis (pro Euro bonds etc) is a miracle to me. The government is fooling around and wasting money, and the opposition proposes to stop the fooling around and step the waste up by an order of magnitude.
The amazing thing is that they're on the other side of the government than is the majority of the population. It's not populism, it's not science-driven, it's not based on old party strategies, it's simply a miracle to me. They behave as if they were in the EU parliament and their constituents weren't Germans, but South Europeans. |
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The most likely explanation may be rather simple. They are so desperate to score some political points, to attack the government and to sharpen their political profile that they are doing something stupid to do something at all. (The "Quarto Reich" headline by Berlusconis Giornale is, in my Italian mind at least, a clear attack on Monti, mixed with some dislike on how our Silvio was treated by the foreign, in this case German press. In this case Monti was painted to be a minion of Angela. Maybe she is planning an new Repubblica di Salo' )In general I would greatly welcome a couple of billion to reduce our public debt. Dear Finns, Germans, Austrian, Dutch & Co please do support our republic in those hard time. We know from our gigantic internal Lira and Euro flow to the mezzogiorno that it can change nothing in the long term and even make it worse but offers are always welcome. ![]() P.S: La Guardia di Finanza has registered an ~80% increase in tax evasion at the Italian-Swiss border Quote:
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Steve,
What a brilliant prospect a non-EU national bank, the SNB, being in a position to bail out Italy and Spain! Using the Swiss Franc too. The "Gnomes of Zurich" return :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnomes_of_Z%C3%BCrichWhat conditions could be set by the SNB might be interesting.
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Hey David,
Having both a plan A and a plan B are probably a good idea... ![]() ...speaking of which... ![]() The Merkel memorandum, Aug 11th 2012 | from the print edition, The Economist, http://www.economist.com/node/21560252 Quote:
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