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Returning to the issue of counterinsurgency, is there real evidence that providing healthcare is a successful means of winning hearts and minds?* I’m not trying to be a troll here but rather am seriously asking whether the concept can truly be said to rise above the level of assertion. *Note that my question is not whether providing access to healthcare improves quality of life. I am taking that for granted.
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My impression is that basic medical aid - in Oman - helped secure the loyalty of local people as proof the new Sultan cared before more extensive and expensive options arrived, such as building roads.
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I don’t know the first thing about that conflict, can you recommend a reading or viewing for beginners? It would be interesting to see whether the initial medical aid was meant to be—or at least to be perceived as—the first step towards a long term medical infrastructure (as opposed to medics periodically showing up to pull teeth and hand out quinine).
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Ganulv,
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Here are some other references and sites that I've dug up. No idea if they will be helpful or not. I have no affiliation with the following, but the links seem interesting:
1. Afghanmed.org - Afghan Medical Organization of America 2. TATRC (tatrc.org) - telemedicine 3. Quote:
4. http://icsr.info/blog/Short-Circuiting-Taliban-Media 5. http://www.globalmedicine.org/GMN/index.asp 6. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1344877.html Quote:
8. http://www.centcom.mil/news/coalitio...-combat-medics 9. http://gh.websedgemedia.com/conferen...r_afghanistan/ The link goes directly to audio!!!! Quote:
Higher Education Project Kabul Medical University 11. http://www.jsomonline.org/Publicatio...7148Keenan.pdf Role of Medicine in Supporting Special Forces Counter-Insurgency Operations in Southern Afghanistan 12. And finally, because I think it matters as background: https://globalsociology.pbworks.com/...Stratification Modernization theory and development stuff. I keep being told no one believes in such a linear process anymore, except it still seems to form a sort of basis for some of our interaction with other nations. Help, other council members! Am I off-base with this line of thinking? http://tinyurl.com/8yhbpxw (Modernization and Medical Care, Sociological Perspective, Gallagher E, 1988) Quote:
Again, this is not an area I know very well so the references and links I provide are for discussion and education. I have more links that might be of interest and will post as time permits. I am a forever SKEPTIC on the third party development game, but it doesn't hurt to study and learn what can be studied and learned....or something like that. |
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Oh, and because I've seemed to have gone off in a different direction from my original comments, an abstract on online medical curriculums:
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So, my basic point in linking the above is that lots of stuff is already available online and for free, so if anyone wants to adapt a cell phone medical curriculum or translate it to radio or whatever, the material is already out there. Tons and tons and tons of it. No need to re-invent the wheel, yada yada yada. Found other sites of interest, don't know a thing about any of it, but as examples: http://medicalcurriculum.com/ http://www.acpmedicine.com/acpmedici...wc_prog.action Quote:
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Okay, one more for now and then I'll give it a rest for a bit:
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So, what happens to the brick-and-mortar once we can't be there or funding dries up? That's why I'm interested in the stuff that's already available, so to speak. There is a fair amount of educational "medical tourism" to neighboring countries and other countries, too. http://www.afghana.com/SocietyAndCul...sociations.htm Last edited by davidbfpo; 06-28-2012 at 06:02 PM. Reason: Fix spacing in quote |
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A medical stability operations curriculum development program exists, apparently, but I know nothing about it. Anyone else know something useful? Bueller? Bueller? (Does anyone under a certain age even recognize the reference?) Quote:
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I am sure the VA has similar pilot programs? Teaching hospitals in the states are very, very good at some things, but they move at the pace of a snail in terms of envisioning something really radical in terms of the delivery of health care. At least, that's been my experience. Much of it has to do with established stakeholders and the rest with a health care policy literature and attitudes stuck in the mid twentieth century. Like so many others. Just why is there such intellectual stagnation here, there, and everywhere, institutionally speaking? Or am I being unfair? |
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Curious that the example given is in Kenya, which has started a number of ground-breaking uses of IT, in finance and information sharing, alongside a paucity of public capital and increasing demand for public services. We in the 'developed' world are rarely nimble, let alone quick. I cannot recall the details now, two sports stadium in London were recently built, one for a public body took years longer than another built for a privately-owned football club.
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Military Medical Assets as Counterinsurgency Force Multipliers: A Call to Action
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Military Medical Assets as Counterinsurgency Force Multipliers: A Call to Action
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Iraq and Afghanistan through the Lens of American Military Casualties
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