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A big difference is the amount an Italian spends on food - then again we have good reasons for it. First it costs more in then in German stores and second it is very difficult to find another Western country in which you get such an excellent ROI on "eating out". This naturally drives demand. P.S: Spending on durable goods has dropped in Italy a great deal since the depression started. The car market which is on level last seen sixty years ago is just the most visible sign. All in all it is a great time to buy a car if you have the money and need one.
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The Last Harvest, from cornfield to new town, by Witold Rybczynski (NYT Review at http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/29/bo...w/Green-t.html ), is a pretty interesting window into real estate in the US. A credit history is a big deal in the US where 'easy credit' is commonly used/culturally acceptable for things such as purchasing gas, computers, washing machines, cars, houses, property, and small businesses (Credit Bureaus by Wiki, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_...#United_States Household Life Cycles and Lifestyles in the United States, REX Y. DU and WAGNER A. KAMAKURA, Journal of Marketing Research Vol. XLIII (February 2006), 121–132, http://faculty.fuqua.duke.edu/~kamak...Lifestyles.pdf ____________ Gauck unterzeichnet ESM-Gesetz und Fiskalpakt, 13.09.2012, FAZ, http://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaf...-11889456.html Quote:
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Cars are not being used up to their full life expectancy in Europe. A well-designed (not intentionally degraded by developers) new car can last for decades. Mercedes Benz E-class Taxi cabs regularly drive 300,000 km in few years without killing an critical parts such as the engine or transmission terminally. Corrosion has been under control for two decades; the stuff that corrodes to the point of requiring a spare part or to the point of making the chassis unsafe - that's corroding by design. Some developers (even at good brands) sabotage their own design to ensure there will be demand for new cars in the future. Cars could be durable enough for 30 years of service to a family. This may happen if the cartel of degrading the corrosion-resistance will be broken. The consequences on the macroeconomic scale and on lifestyle as well as on the automotive sector (after market and custom upgrades could become the new big thing) would be huge. Cars could become an investment for the retirement comparable to houses. |
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I wrote already about the lack of Italian productivity growth. Now it has been picked up as page 1 topic by the Corriere della Sera
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In Italy there has been also a controversial debate about the federalismo and the role of the state and the regions in general which has been fueled by recent scandals like this and the staggering differences in the handling of the public good. It is strange that some regions like la Lombardia are able to work better with far less expenses per capita then others.
An element of this debate has been the complex confronation between the autonomous regions/provinces and other regions with the government trying to tax as much as it can and to safe quite a bit by cutting some expense by reducing for example the number of normal provinces. Now the autonomous regions are also not created alike and have various statuti and range from the in general virtuosi northern ones - Aosta, Trentino-Southtyrol, Friuli-Venezia Giulia - to the southern Sicily and Sardinia. In generally in the first three have put their greater means and rights to good use, although the public sector of the Vall d'Aosta seems far to big while in the latter, especially Sicily this has not been the case. The current "spending review" has put alot of pressure especially on the wealthier ones to "do their part". This has caused of course anger especially when there has been little regard to hard-won rights at least based in one case on an international treaty. Not su much pacta sunt servanda for Monti in these times of expediency. A tendency which can be seen to a good degree in the whole Eurozone with the orginal Barbarians seemingly being by far more Latin in this sense then the so-called Latins. Finishing with o tempora o mores might be a little much. So I will just add that due to the decline of the Lega Nord and the relative small size of those autonomous regions the impact on Italy as a whole should be smaller then in Spain. --- P.S: I have slightly reduced the strong investments in stocks due to the very strong gains in the last weeks. European stocks are IMHO still more under-then overvalued but short-term gains of 10-20% are nothing to be sneezed at especially if the economy is still so weak in many areas and the dividends have been mostly payed out. I'm thus both long on them while preparing myself to use another crisis phase to get in. If he latter is not possible I might look at decent bonds. On the other hand I did something which I usually don't do, buying while I'm selling, in this case an ETF on Chinese small caps. After a good deal of information I have very little trust indeed in the level of Chinese accounting or reporting etc but even with a good margin of safety built in they seem to be attractive for the long term, but who knows what the future brings. P.P.S: For the Italian speakers out there. Love also the comment, which sadly speaks the truth. Villa abusiva? Ma come si fa: - a costruire una villa (NB non una tettoia per polli: una villa) abusivamente? - come si fa a costruirla di fronte al mare, dove tutti (tutti!) la possono vedere? - come si fa a non accorgersi di camion, gru, operai, allacciamenti alla conrrente ecc? - come si fa a costruirla in un parco? Ma, scusate: in che paese viviamo? Comune, Provincia, regione, Vigili...: nessuno controlla ????
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El Rey, a los independentistas: “Lo peor ahora sería perseguir quimeras”, MÁBEL GALAZ / CARLOS E. CUÉ Madrid 19 SEP 2012 - 00:50 CET, El Pais, http://politica.elpais.com/politica/...06_782001.html Quote:
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Euro financials score card: Two wins, one loss for the August - September time frame....sold on the news of Draghi's OMT and just before Karlsruhe's ruling on the ESM. One more arrow in the quiver...probably should have sold on helicopter Ben's QE3 news last Friday, but will probably wait until this Friday...Japan's printing news has not made for much of a bounce
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It would be quite interesting to know more about the internal transfer mechanisms in Spain. I'm quite informed about those in Italy, Germany, the UK and the USA but lack even basic information about the Spanish system. In general the topic can be quite complex, especially for regions with a high degree of autonomy. More autonomy in general means that the region has to have more ressources (read money) at its disposal to fund those additional needs in autonomous sectors like education.
Found now a little, quite an interesting read.
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AFAIK the Spanish state keeps the exact figures of the transfers a secret itself in order to avoid discussions about the transfers.
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My youngest brother enjoyed his Erasmus year in Spain a great deal as Andalusia is beautiful even if very hot in the summer and surprisingly cold inside in wintertime due to a frequent lack of central heating. The rent was payed in black (at least one says so in Italian) and there was an amazing number of local people, especially young people living without regular job, most even without a "regular" black one. The number of high-quality musicians was very high indeed and greatly impressed him, who is quite a talented singer and musician himself. They generally also had more time to excercise then the guy finishing his engineering degree in Munich.
The local dialect is strong and he learned it rather quickly as he lived mostly among the locals. Surprisingly, although it really shouldn't be there were a couple of stereotypes about other Spanish regions and among them the arrogant and know-it-better Catalans. It is of course amusing to observe that the world is a village in this regard both also in Italy with the terroni ( those south Italians ) and polentoni ( I love a good polenta) and the Eurozone as a whole.
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It is estimated that Poland's total applications for Euro 2012 added up to more than 5 percent of its gross domestic products. Many Polish corporations are now investing just enough to keep enterprises going, but they are holding off on making big-ticket investments in substructure, development or employment.
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Una teora de la clase poltica espaola
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Porsche, Daimler Indicate Europes Car Crisis Spreading By Alex Webb, Dorothee Tschampa and Tommaso Ebhardt - Sep 21, 2012 5:44 AM MT, Bloomberg News, http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...spreading.html Quote:
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An article from the FT, prior to the launch of a report next week by Counterpoint, a London-based European think tank and sub-titled:
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The U.S. brands of right wing extremism are something that's likely more troublesome in the long term than whatever sugar high the European right wing(s) might get from the economic troubles.
Luckily, Americans have troubles crossing the English Channel language-wise. Another long term problem with right wing ideology stuff might stem from Russia, Belarus and the Ukraine. Nationalism and jingoism appear to be part of what fills the void left by communism in those countries. This could turn ugly sooner or later (even more so in East Asia, where the Chinese, Koreans and Japanese have some outright ridiculous nationalistic ideas). The only area in Europe where the economic crisis could give a decisive push to nationalism is in my opinion Catalonia. |
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Catalonia warns EU that million-strong march cannot be ignored
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--- The Shiller P/E or P/E 10 is rather low for most European countries with some exceptions like Germany, where stock prices have been resisted and current PE is relative low due to strong earnings. The Dividend yield is high and for rougly 3 years now superior to the bond yields, for the first time in almost 50 years. The ROE is in general good despite some relative poor earnings. In this case the Eurozone crisis has been good for investors has it has enabled us to buy a seemingly good prices for quite some periods. While I'm firmly long with a roughly 65% in equity, nominally with good capital gains I have sold quite a bit in the recent weeks. Sadly yesterday I was not able to do so, but who knows where and when... Considering that I'm a net saver and should remain so for a couple of years those low valuations are positive. Even more so is volative nature of the stock market which allows one to buy cheap and sell some high if one wants to. Certainly Mr. Market has been very helpful lately, giving in my opion sometimes a good margin of safety. I just hope that by generally sticking to my sweet spots and rules I did not comit too many blunders. Recounting the ones made in the last 6 months is already quite a bit painful ![]() Instead of thinking of the current crisis why not enjoy some of the best qualities of good old Europe? Schubert, Trio op. 100 - Andante con moto . P.S: I can not resist to write that accroding to a study presented in the Corriere della Sera the Italian savers got slightly less the half of the overall yield of their investments. More then 50% went to "helpers" as Buffet calls them, in very costly fees. This is nothing but shocking and a good reminder why I have pushed hard to get the personal as low as possible. Low-cost index funds (ETFs etc) are part of this package. Sadly selling expensive products can be a good deal of the bank who enables the helpers to get enough money to help the bank to help the saver paying them in generally far too much for the performance they offer. ---
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Well spotted - add another one to those blunders. Thinking more does sometimes help. I also did not openly express doubt about the numbers which I should have.
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I thought about writing an article for my blog about this kind of problem, but so far refrained for lack of connection to the usual blog topics.
European unity had to turn from a realist policy strategy to an ideology in order to succeed on the grand scale. The pro-Europe ideologues (including Kohl) looked at the commonality that a common currency provides and mistook it for unity. A currency union does not unite; it divides. Existing imbalances are likely to increase with a common currency, and the utterly incompetent behaviour of naive investors and governments has amplified this effect. Now we're in great trouble, for the ideology drove us into a wrong turn and walking back is not allowed to ideologues. The challenge will be to break the ideology without breaking the real advantages of the degree of unity and cooperation so far achieved in Europe. |
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