Quote Originally Posted by saveus View Post
... in the end we must remember that it was our government that created it.
Ah, ... no.

That is the fantasy of a certain part of the political spectrum in Western countries, but it's fantasy. They self organized out of already radicalized groups in response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. We found them and gave them arms and some training. To claim that as some sort of act of "creation" is simply and completely false.

The roots of the current problems in the Middle East stretch back hundreds of years. The state of those countries today is what their leaders - secular, religious and cultural - have made them over all that time. The stoking of anger over the current state of their countries is a technique used by the malignant and/or insane to gain their own advantage.

Letting them off the hook for their responsibility might feel good to certain domestic elements of Western nations, it might even help them gain political advantage among the low information part of their electorates, but it makes thing much worse for the world in general and Moslem countries in particular.