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Given the varying tactics used by EU navies in the area, some "catch & release" and others "catch, jail anywhere but home" one wonders what this policy decision means.
One can predict all such 'targets' on beaches will have women and children in the vicinity. Plus the ubiquitous camera footage of an outrage. It must be time for a "summit", so make an announcement. Ah, checking the BBC the announcement follows an EU Defence Ministers meeting, that extended the mandate for EU naval action for two years:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17487767 Which has a "progress" report: Quote:
Frank Gardner,one of the BBC's security correspondents, who has been aboard a ship transiting the area, has written a comment, cited in full: Quote:
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Not so fast Stan...
The following two quotes indicate that this is more likely just more talk about getting tough than actually doing so. Quote:
It should be noted too that apart from the Brit and French navies the remainder of the EU navies can be considered 'timid' and should be released to go home (after being thanked for the efforts to date of course ).
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I attended an academic conference this week in London and one panel looked at various aspects of Somali piracy. One speaker, Jatin Dua, made an impact:
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1. There is a long history of oceanic exchange between Somalia (as part of East Africa), Kenya, Sharjah (UAE) and Gujerat, an Indian coastal state. Traditionally and still today this is largely by dhow. The dhows use offshore refuelling by Iranian merchants. There is a licensing system in place for the dhows, which removes them as a target for pirates 2. There is a pattern of human smuggling from Ethiopia's Ogaden Province (which historically has a cross-border Somali community) to the Gulf and Yemen. 3. Livestock are traded from Somaliland to Saudi Arabia, so when the Saudis impose and recently have lifted restrictions this has an impact. 4. Both Somaliland, Puntland he knew and by anecdote Somalia have a superb mobile phone network and within minutes it is possible to move cash from the USA to Somaliland - based on a trust network, similar to Hawala banking; see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawala 5. There can be movement from Al-Shabaab to piracy, one former fighter stated: Quote:
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An attack in the Gulf of Oman and near Iran is well different:
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One wonders whether the pirates will face justice in China or Iran? Assuming of course that is the route followed. Both national navies participate in anti-piracy patrolling - in co-ordination with the multi-national flotillas.
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A rather short film clip from a BBC TV travel documentary, where the reporter visits a jail in Somaliland:
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In March 2012 the EU announced it would take action on Somali territory and the BBC reports this happened last night:
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Note later verbally Frank Gardiner added the five skiffs were machine gunned by helicopters. Personally I think this verges on theatre. The BBC report cites the pirates: Quote:
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Then there is the well documented, sorry reported lack of capability and will to act against captured pirates - the 'catch & release' policy. Which IIRC was last reported by a Danish warship, that held their prisoners for thirty days and then let them go. If the Greek tanker reaches Somalia one wonders how the EU "spin" doctors will translate this statement to explain: Quote:
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Piracy around Horn of Africa has plunged, U.S. says
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I have previously cited the IMB's statistics and their latest figures for 2012, a week old are:
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At last a lengthy account of some of the hostages held in Somalia.
Have you heard of the Iceberg 1? I hadn't, although aware that hostages were being held and from the start of the article: Quote:
Name & shame the owners, who have done almost nothing: Quote:
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A sorry tale of rivalry, power and a "strategic corporal" thanks to FP Blog, with a long article on a UAE funded attempt to counter piracy on land in Puntland:
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On SWC we often desire local partners willing and capable of doing the hard work, yes even when paid by outsiders, but there must be something in the Somali air and air-conditioned rooms nearby that destroys hope.
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Hat tip to CIMIC for the link to an official Puntland statement rejecting an allegation made by ABC that the PMPF was a 'private army':http://www.garoweonline.com/artman2/...cy_Force.shtml
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Why does this sound so similar to ... well, to EVERYTHING we read in the press?
just one example paraphrase: "WASHINGTON — It seemed like a simple idea: In the chaos that is [Washington, DC], create a sophisticated, highly trained [economic] force that could finally defeat the pirates terrorizing the [finance] lanes off the [Wall Street] coast. But the creation of the Puntland [Parttime Regulatory Farce] was anything but simple. It involved dozens of [retired political] mercenaries and the shadowy [lobbyist] firms that employed them, millions of dollars in secret payments by the United [Grab Campaignirates], a former clandestine officer with the Central Intelligence Agency, and the [Princelings], the billionaire former [employees] of [the too big to fail banks] who [were] residing at the time in all the [key policy agencies]." |
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Short update and then the cost of anti-piracy measures for the shipowners:
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At last! I have m' doubts about a long fight, more likely a cordon and talk. Note no reference to any prisoners being taken.
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Thanks for keeping us posted on this David. It is unusual that all the surviving crewmen seem to have been rescued yet some of the pirates were killed. Good job I guess.
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Hat tip to Lowy Institute's 'The Interpreter' for this Australian news item (behind a paywall) 'Glencore chief Simon Murray launches private navy to combat Somali pirate threat':
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