Quote Originally Posted by Fuchs View Post
Look at how renewable energies are being subsided; a fixed prices system.

Small providers can deliver renewable energy electricity into one of the big four's nets and get a high, fixed price for it.

The big providers can't do this with their own net, as they would pay themselves. In the end, renewable energy electricity in their own area would have the actual price, and they love their old nuclear powerplants with all their thoroughly hidden and externalised costs sooo much.

Moreover, it doesn't make sense to go to another big provider's area and infuse renewable energy electricity there. They could take revenge and do the same in your area, and there you're effectively back at the original case of selling to yourself.

What they have is for PR and for having competence cores about the stuff.
But they clearly understimated the dynamic of the developement and now try to catch up with off-shore wind, the only production sector where their size matters.

There was no real attempt by the large utilties to change from energy producer to energy manager, they have know-how in this field, IMHO a lost oppportunity.

Energy production and nets are different aspects and business sectors, the main issue at the moment is that the G4 deliver electricity at a price that is for consumer and small industry higher than the production costs with PV, they clarly calculate with the laziness of the consumers.

consumer price (high demand) 17-20 cent /kWh
production costs with PV 12-17 cent /kWh
FIT 13 cent /kWh

So everbody who owns roofage and has a chance to consume electricity during daytime has a nice incentive to build PV, the business model will change from investment to optimizing self consumption. Next year we will see a low PV build, but this will improve in the next years. Each GW PV and on-shore wind destroy demand from the G4.