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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuchs View Post
    Depends on whether one counts the whole of Russia in such statistics.
    Good point about Russia...but I talked about Europe and I don't believe much of Eurpean Russia would have been considered a frontier.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuchs View Post
    Others (who rather don't work in 'values'-centric organisations) tend to point a lot at drugs, or the 'war' on the same.
    One could also point at a crisis of the middle class or at urbanisation, albeit neither is really unique to the US.
    They may do that, but that leads to the question of what leads to the proclivity to drug use and criminal behavior? In the US, the best predictor for both is families headed by un-wed mothers.

    No you can't point to the crisis of the middle class (whatever that is) because the middle class doesn't commit many murders, the underclass does. And the US has been pretty urbanized for a long time.

    Besides you asked what went wrong. I gave you my opinion in response.
    Last edited by carl; 01-12-2013 at 12:17 AM.
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