Mike, I am serious from the standpoint that Pat Boone is serious and I don't think it is without some factual basis on Pat's part. Whether the President is a Marxist or not I don't know, only he really knows and his close advisor's. Does/did he and or his advisor's use Marxist techniques for political manipulation.....I have no doubt about that. Marx understood how to motivate and manipulate Social Groups and use that to win/manipulate elections. The Conservative movement/Republican party had better learn to respect the man (Marx) and his methods or they are likely to face extinction in the near future He (Marx) is easy to beat which is why I am continually amazed at some of the right wing rhetoric that is put out, it is almost as if the left paid the right to screw things up.