Egypt and the Treaty of Westphalia

[carl]

I think the world we Westerner's created offers no in-between. That may be our downfall.

Exactly. That is a great point too. Pinochet or Franco were unpleasant, repugnant maybe, but they offered a stepping stone to something that got a lot better. The takfiris won't.

The actions of the Turkish Army over the decades maybe didn't conform to our sensibilities but they seemed to do Turkey good.