Quote Originally Posted by CrowBat View Post
Not 'everyone' - just you.
The actual reference was:

Quote Originally Posted by JMA View Post
What we see is another example of rank incompetence by all except the Russians (who once again have the measure of the US).
Somehow I don't think "all except the Russians was meant to mean me. I don't even think the Russians have done all that well at this one: they are attached to a dictator facing what's likely to be a prolonged and intractable insurgency, which is never a congenial place to be. The best outcome they can hope for is to restore the status quo ante, which is neither a significant gain for them or a significant loss for the US. They have something to lose and very little to gain, hardly evidence of "having the measure" of anyone.

Quote Originally Posted by CrowBat View Post
See here with what kind of negative consequences in the case of Syria
Yes, there's a great deal of ham-handed propaganda going around. So what? What does that have to do with US involvement or non-involvement, and of what is it supposedly a "consequence"? How is the citation in any way relevant to the matter under discussion?