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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    mirhond---so let's see;

    1. you know no Ukrainian neo Nazi's? But the Russian Foreign Ministry and even Putin argues they exist or at least that was the reason given "protecting" Crimean Russians was it not? Was it not the reason given yesterday and today by the same Foreign Ministry that a proRussian was killed in demos in Donetsk by right wing radicals when in fact he was a right wing proUkrainian

    2. so are you then assuming that there are no neo Nazi's and neo fascists since evidently those terms have not been used by anyone in the current Russian government?

    3. all previously known facts about Putin as a former KGB officer is what irrelevant as well as what the current FSB is irrelevant in the large ongoing disinformation campaign which I will be more than willing to show you how it works when a specific article was lanced today

    4. your example of the attacked Jew---was he attacked by a Russian swearing neo right wing Ukrainian or a Russian swearing Russian Ukrainian or a what "ethnic Russian speaking Russian from where Russia---so which was it?

    5. glad to see you read Haaretz at least it is left wing and not neo nazi

    6. age and experience tends to give one a far more balanced opinion vs those that are not so experienced and aged---that is not a fallacy but rather a simple fact of life especially when one speaks of the SU days---spent time in the SU in 1973 where were you?

    7. so the constant comments coming out of Putin, the Russian Foreign Ministry, the Russian UN Ambassador and the Russian Foreign Minster concerning neo rightists, right wing radicals and yes the term Nazi is not something that was say common standard vocabulary for the Communist Party and yes even the KGB since Stalin's days?

    8. so is it irrelevant that the same individuals above call the current Ukrainian government illegal and yet the current Crimean government rep (who originally had only four votes in the Crimean parliament) was "elected" legally when the representatives of the 40% of the other minorities in the Crimea were not allowed to vote and there were armed personnel inside the building doing what "protecting" them from neo Nazi's who wee no where to be seen

    So in the end you I suppose you support the annexation of the Crimea to Russia instead of say returning it the Tartars who were slaughtered in the gulags as they were accused of being nazi's by Stalin and then "allowed" to return who also speak Russian but have not been mentioned by Putin as the main reason for "protecting" ethnic Russians.
    1.,2. I can swear on every holy scriptures in the world that I personally do not now any neo-Nazi character, if that is your qiestion. Why should I? But I suppose you are asking whether am I familliar with all this propaganda in Russian media? No, thanks, I'am fed up with this bull$hit. All I know there are real neo-Nazis now gaining some political ground in Kiev.

    3. Hey, you are evading the subject - you have to show how KGB/FSB/Putin is connected to fear of Nazis. I personally kinda nervous about the whole concept of Nazism because I've learned from history that these guys surely wont give me, Slavic Untermensch, a candy. Well, if you blame KGB/FSB/Putin for my petty fear - you are far far away from truth.

    4. I don't know and I don't care.

    5. Actually I know this paper, I just cant stand the temptation to show you the unprobable claim of yours.

    6. Сдается мне, что вы советский еврей, обиженный на "тюрьму народов". Понимаю, но не принимаю. Well, if "balanced opinion" means probabilistic opinion - you are right about age and experience, but beware! There is a Middle Ground Fallacy, which lures unprepared mind into a position equally away from Truth and False!

    7. merges with 3. All these officials may be jerks, but dont blame them, blame history for widespread hatred, cherished in Russia, towards anything labeled "Nazism".

    8. 60% is a majority, yes? Voila, "democracy" at work!
    Crimea belonged to Tatars? Wow, you are digging deep into history. May be hand it back to Goths, or even Greeks. then? Anyway, I don't care - another adventure of Putin & Co. does not affect me much. Of cause I'd like to see "polite troops" invading Vologodskaya, Tul'skaya or Bryanskaya Oblast', or any other struggling and depressive region of Russia, bringing along order, security and money, but I'am not Putin's political advisor. This guy wont give a $hit, either.

    9. In Russian term "terrorist" says nothing about political platform, in English, I suppose, too.

    ps. Putin& Co stole my country and I wish all of them painful and gruesome death. Dixi.

    @carl You are pathetic, really.
    Last edited by mirhond; 03-15-2014 at 10:58 PM.

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