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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCurmudgeon View Post
    Again, this argument has nothing to do with the the assault weapons, or guns in general. It has to do with people, what makes them think and act in certain ways. Think of this as a look at the Human Domain, except we are looking at our own Domain, the American public.
    Well, focusing on the just the "human domain" as I pointed out I think there's a large percentage of people in this country (and possibly growing) who think that their government is getting out of control. As I also mentioned, this reality or perception whether it's true or not can and possibly will at some point lead to insurgency of some sort. One only has to peruse many of the "forums" on the internet or look at many of the bumper stickers on vehicles and one starts to realize that there is a sizable portion of people who feel this country is going down a path that is divergent from what our founding fathers put into their framing of this country.

    Companies (i.e. firearm companies) have also learned to vote with their feet by leaving states and locales that are no longer favorable towards them. So I do agree with you (assuming this is your point) that there are many out there who feel threatened and are thus pooling into a growing percentage of people why are "afraid" of their government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Condor View Post
    Well, focusing on the just the "human domain" as I pointed out I think there's a large percentage of people in this country (and possibly growing) who think that their government is getting out of control. As I also mentioned, this reality or perception whether it's true or not can and possibly will at some point lead to insurgency of some sort. One only has to peruse many of the "forums" on the internet or look at many of the bumper stickers on vehicles and one starts to realize that there is a sizable portion of people who feel this country is going down a path that is divergent from what our founding fathers put into their framing of this country.

    Companies (i.e. firearm companies) have also learned to vote with their feet by leaving states and locales that are no longer favorable towards them. So I do agree with you (assuming this is your point) that there are many out there who feel threatened and are thus pooling into a growing percentage of people why are "afraid" of their government.
    I started this thread with a question. I have been developing my thoughts and honing in on what bothers me as we go, so I apologize if the early statements seem random.

    I don't see the gun companies as the problem. They are simply responding to the feeling of the people - providing them what they want. My question has more to do with why the people want these guns. They seem to have a specific reason to buy them and the demand is growing (or it appears that way).

    I also cannot determine what the complaint is. There are a number of talking heads out there who play on this trying different avenues (its the immigrants, its the socialist leanings of the government, its the rich people) but none of them seem to hit the mark. In the past where there was a problem it could be turned into a political movement and then either addressed by the government or co-opted by those in charge. This doesn't seem to have coalesced on any one theme that can be politically addressed.

    The only common thread is that the people feel the need to be armed with weapons they feel even their odds in a fight with the police or the military. That worries me. Assuming the normal political system cannot address whatever this is, I believe it is only a matter of time till someone actually starts shooting.

    I could be overstating this, but I don't think so.
    "I can change almost anything ... but I can't change human nature."

    Jon Osterman/Dr. Manhattan
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