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    AP---so who is actually smoking dope in Moscow these days--Putin or his Defense Ministry?

    And you really want to convince me they are not a rouge state? Well maybe not a rouge state but evidently in an alternated state of reality which is far more dangerous as then they do not fully understand the reality of their problems and that is dangerous especially if they control nuclear weapons.

    Again another example of the "ain't me complex".

    From Interfax today:

    17:19 CLAIMS BY PENTAGON, NATO ABOUT RUSSIA BUILDING UP MILITARY PRESENCE ALONG BORDER WITH UKRAINE ARE BASELESS - RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTRY

    This was the expanded Interfax press release:

    August 06, 2014 17:33


    Pentagon, NATO make baseless claims about Russia increasing military presence along border with Ukraine - ministry


    MOSCOW. Aug 6 (Interfax-AVN) - Allegations by Pentagon and NATO officials about the continuing build-up of the Russian military presence along the border with Ukraine are misleading the global community, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

    "Such claims can only make the Russian Defense Ministry sympathize with Pentagon, State Department and NATO spokespersons. They seem to be serious people who constantly have to improvise in their speeches in order to lend some seriousness to their claims," spokesman for the Russian Defense Ministry Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov told journalists on Wednesday.

    "Regular escapades about Russia pulling its troops towards the border with Ukraine are reminiscent of a soap-bubble sale auction where the most important thing is to ask the highest price before the bubble bursts," he said.

    "Apparently, this is why there are such big discrepancies in figures cited in statements about the alleged 'massing' of Russian troops," the general said.


    So AP NATO/US is wrong about the Russian buildup but somehow someone in Moscow forgot to tell the Germans who are picking the buildup with their intelligence services and are highly concerned of a possible "peacekeeping" invasion.

    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/auslan...-a-984774.html

    And somehow someone in Russia ie Putin and the RF MoD does not believe all those NATO/US AWACs flying around using the GMTI sensors are not seeing the buildup as well.

    And Russia is not a rouge state come on AP---you never did accept or eject the Wikipedia definition of a rouge state did you as a common ground for this debate.
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 08-06-2014 at 03:21 PM.

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