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    See AP this is where you get off the tracks again---while you want to negotiate over what I am not sure Russia has made two serious attempts to move in their "peacekeeping Brigades" which by the way I helped to train their staffs in 2012/2013 in the concept of how the US carries out peacekeeping ops so I fully understand it when they use the term peacekeeping as I had spent hours driving out of their minds peacekeeping means actually shooting civilians as they knew only one thing in peacekeeping---shooting and asking questions far, far later.

    1. they made the UNSC move claiming they were moving together with a IRC humanitarian plan which the IRC promptly stated they had none and the UNSC shot them down

    2. yesterday there was a serious move on the Ukrainian border when a large Russian military convoy moved extremely close to the border again claiming "humanitarian peacekeeping together with the IRC"

    http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/08/0...ion-escalates/

    Even more detail on that Russian "peacekeeping" attempt yesterday---notice AP/Dayuhan when the diplomatic tone gets hard Russia pulls back---not that they will stop and they are still looking for that "humanitarian option to invade with but forceful tones and the word war muttered still does get into Putin's head---and AP all you want is to negotiate?

    http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukra...ne-359967.html

    Economics is in fact a verifiable weapons system---and the US with their Counter Threat Finance group is getting it right and it is hurting Russia--when the dust settles finally you will notice a shift in the Russian stance.

    The Ukraine has bluntly told Russia that any peacekeeping move by their troops is an act of war and will be seen as such and they will call the UNSC, the International Court and effectively stop all gas and oil leaving Russia for the EU effectively cutting their hard cash inflow by over 40% and the more serious threat of a Ukrainian Army guerrilla war voiced yesterday out of Kiev on the Russian Army LOCs is a really effective threat and it is being seen by the Russians as a serious threat.

    The Ukraine is not Georgia.

    Right now the US is in effect fighting a two front war---the Ukraine and over Iraq--and because we are a declining power we cannot engage both fully thus we have not been focusing verbally and sanction wise on the Russian moves the last three days. One must constantly engage the global public when Russia makes a move--if there is no worldwide comments against them then Russia interprets that as a positive response for what they do---has always been that way even in the CW days.

    We claimed for years DoD could fight a 2.5 front war---but the reality is now totally different---when you decline you decline and this is a indicator of that decline.

    AP/Dayuhan---reference the two front war problem---this article in German is a good starting point as even the Europeans see it coming.

    http://www.focus.de/politik/experten...d_4044042.html
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 08-09-2014 at 08:45 AM.

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