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    Bill asked me:
    My question for you is should the West fight IS regardless based on the threat the(y) pose to us?
    From my armchair faraway Bill my response is political not military.

    I am unconvinced that we, the UK, should join this alliance and take military action in Iraq, maybe with Syria being added.

    First and foremost we do not understand the region well enough to navigate our way around and achieve the goal of a united, coherent Iraqi state. This weakness is partly historical and reflects the lack of information, let alone intelligence on what is happening now.

    This academic piece has value 'With bad intelligence on Islamic State, West is flying in the dark':https://theconversation.com/with-bad...the-dark-32247 This analyst takes a more strategic viewpoint - what can intervention achieve:http://leftfootforward.org/2014/09/5...st-should-ask/ and from ICSR:https://newhumanist.org.uk/articles/...ikes-stop-isis

    Secondly I am not convinced ISIS poses such a threat to the UK and allied national security now or in the near future, that it demands military action. In the debate here last week a number of MPs referred to the threat to Turkey, which is a very weak argument given Turkey's own stance to date. Yes like all jihadists they hate the 'far enemy'. Have they the motivation and capability to attack us now? It seems to me they are busy enough carving out their emirate and contemplating how to attack Baghdad.

    The allied military action taken so far has been criticised in many quarters; reflected in the other SWC thread:http://council.smallwarsjournal.com/...ad.php?t=21196

    I support giving aid to the enemies of ISIS such as the Kurds in both countries, although their objectives are quite limited and they are unlikely to want to attack traditionally Sunni Arab areas. As for the Iraqi state I see little action of consequence.

    In Syria it is harder to decide on how to fight ISIS. I would oppose a "deal" with Bashir Assad and his rivals the jihadist-inclined groups. As many have noted a number of those groups may ally themselves with ISIS now. If that happens the non-jihadist groups are doomed. Assad rarely attacks ISIS, as Crowbat reminds us.

    Containment of ISIS is achievable:

    1) Reduce its newly acquired heavy weapons capability (artillery, tanks etc)
    2) Support the Kurdish enclaves in Syria
    3) Support rival groups overtly and covertly to attack / resist ISIS
    4) Enforce a 'no fly zone' over Syria (build up to this)
    5) Weaken its message, finances and flow of personnel
    Last edited by davidbfpo; 09-30-2014 at 05:56 PM. Reason: Add links
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