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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    Only a small part cited:

    This estimate comes from a Birmingham Labour MP, a Muslim, who sometimes can be a prolific quote provider. He has given little to support his estimate, other than this:
    Link:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...mic-State.html

    The MP has been saying this since June 2014, so the timing of repeating the estimate appears to coincide with a new government campaign, alongside new CT legislation with some curious features. See:http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news...ghters-7312675

    I shall refrain from commenting on Outlaw's other points; I do agree with him on counter-messaging is a huge gap in our response, but then I have said that on the UK thread on this topic.

    David--sorry for the UK comments but think about it---why the huge IS pull into the UK Muslim population that is not as strong in the other EU countries?

    If we take the German Muslim reasons for joining the IS they are virtually the same as ones we hear coming out of the UK but the UK numbers are far higher than German numbers.

    We see a similar pattern in France that in fact parallels the UK---and French numbers are also just as high as well. There is a similar but smaller numbers coming out of Belgium where integration of migrants has also stalled over the last years.

    So deep inside the UK and French societies something is driving young Muslim men to flow to the IS--we in the West call it radicalization-- but is it really or is it something far deeper--meaning has the migration of Muslims into the UK and especially France from northern Africa created an environment that lends itself to IS info warfare---if yes then what is it in those particular societies that are the drivers?

    In France it expressed itself initially in the traditional burning of cars in the zip codes of France with heavy Muslim populations over the last ten or so years ---still occurs in the "traditional times" --but those that once did the burnings now appear to be in Syria and Iraq.

    WHAT is not being talked about is ---the highest numbers of Muslim men flowing to the IS are in fact coming from the Russian Federation---which Russia refuses to acknowledge because they claim they have no problems just as they claim no Russian troops in eastern Ukraine and we all know how that is a "lie".
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 11-24-2014 at 10:48 AM.

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