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    I often write here at SWJ about the "weaponization of information": for some info war---here are two great examples:

    And we the west are nowhere close to being even in the info war game--Russia has long ago won it and we did not even come in the top 30.

    "Fully 20,000 journalists employed by the state are now compelled to help the Kremlin fight its propaganda war ..." http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinio...nd/514371.html

    "Documents Show How Russia’s Troll Army Hit America" Not only America, but a key piece. http://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/do...erm=.dblyVQGNX

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    So here is Russian Occupation Forces response to Ukraine MFA's offer of ceasefire: #DonetskAirport being shelled now
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRujbSn6pUU

    Pro-#Russia|n media, you fail. Not airport, but "Metro" mall not far from it. Airports don't sell flowers or bread!
    NOTE: the Russian news media was trying yesterday in video reports to indicate they were still in the airport terminal but ended up using a destroyed Ukrainian mall in Donetsk as the background claiming it was the airport

    Ukrainian authorities have fully closed traffic into areas of Luhansk Oblast occupied by Russia @HromadskeTV reports.
    pic.twitter.com/kkldqzpwVh

    The battle in the Shastye
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/19-janu...n-the-shastye-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE9vIOPNb80

    More photo evidence suggesting missile that shot down #MH17 provided by Russia @bellingcat
    https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-a...ne-and-russia/
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVl_wY7glSk

    Russian media spins lie that Putin suggests "Ukraine conflicting parties cease fire, pull back artillery guns 100mm+" !!
    Heavy fighting continues along many of the front lines between Russian and Ukrainian forces. There is a tank battle at Donetsk airport.

    #ATO battle-groups assault&destroyed enemy position which fired in"Cyborgs"airport,enemy withdrew to residential areas of #Donetsk #Ukraine

    "Who controls what of Donetsk airport – a clarification attempt"
    http://conflictreport.info/2015/01/1...ation-attempt/

    INTENSE GRAD ATTACK IN #DONETSK RIGHT NOW, ENDLESS EXPLOSIONS
    Very different sound of fighting today, a lot of tank fire very near the cam (?!)
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    ATO spokesperson: #LPR claims they have own “Air Force” of 2 jets. This can be used to hide the use of #Russia|n aviation

    In case Rus aviation is used against civilians or Ukr military forces, air targets will be destroyed - ATO spox Lysenko

    Listening thru headphones #DonetskAirport webcam: Today is wider variety of weapons being fired over wider area. Intense fighting.

    BREAKING: 3 #Ukraine soldiers were killed and 66 (!!!) got wounded in the last 24 hours - ATO spokesperson

    Statement of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of #Ukraine on state of implementation of the #Minsk agreements...
    http://fb.me/6izCotIUD

    Per Minsk accords heavy equip needs b withdrawn 15km, would mean terrorists leav half of Donetsk w/out control, thus they need airport - ATO

    ATO Headquarters: Militants suffer substantial losses of manpower and equipment at Donetsk airport
    http://uatoday.tv/news/ato-headquart...rt-403603.html

    I can't understand: where is "cease" and where is "fire" at the map?
    pic.twitter.com/LSRTgfdLJf

    BREAKINGNEWS
    Ukrainian or Russian offensive?!
    Reports of an invasion army ground assault on #Pisky right now!!
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    Late yesterday the Russian MFA declared that the Donetsk airport was to have been given to the "separatists/mercenaries" under the Minsk agreements which is a total falsehood at the highest Russian governmental levels--and never called out by western media.


    The Ukraine has released the English version of the Minsk Agreement which indicated absolutely nothing and then this today:

    No coordinates were put into Minsk agreem when signing as to location of forces, delimit. Forces supposed to stay where they were - ATO spox

    #Putin is upset that a dishonest peace proposal of his for a conflict he adamantly denies to be involved in has been rejected by #Ukraine.

    TASS ✔ @tassagency_en
    Kiev should immediately start weapons removal in Ukraine’s south-east — Russian ForMin
    http://tass.ru/en/russia/771915
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    No wonder the Russian info war is so busy attempting to push back on their shelling of a Ukrainian bus killing 13.

    #SBU:#Zakharchenko - Prime suspect in the shooting attack #terrorist of the bus #Volnovaha #Ukraine
    pic.twitter.com/5rv3m3BmSv

    Remember he recently claimed to actually have seen the physical shot down of MH17 at 15kms but did not explain why he was in the crash site area at the exact time of the shot down.
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    Shells are indeed falling in the middle of Donetsk. Hospital on Shevchenko hit. Via @Fredotchka pic.twitter.com/BQDci5ARuD

    Putin: Russia ready to monitor ceasefire in Donbas together with OSCE
    http://uatoday.tv/news/putin-russia-...ce-403606.html

    NOTE: Putin has been trying from the beginning to get his “peacekeeping 14/15th Bdes into the Donbas but the Ukrainians have been good a diverting it—now with the Russian troops and mercenaries actively shelling all villages and towns and then blaming the Ukrainians he sees his chances.

    Video-Report about situation in zone #ATO #Pisky #Donetsk #Ukraine - http://bit.ly/1CGimaZ - #Donbas #Army #Ukraina
    pic.twitter.com/fpxTj5GtGo

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    Reports of tank battle at #Donetsk Airport & #Pisky/ #Peski now #Russia T-72s,T-64s supposedly seen in area
    pic.twitter.com/ZoENWfvV1a

    Russia media blames #Ukraine for increased fighting. RT: @Ruptly
    Heavy shelling continues as Kiev escalates conflict
    http://ow.ly/HvWET

    #News
    Mortar and small arms attacks are also conducted vs. #Battalion_Azov troops in #Hranitne now. Russians want to cross the #Kalmius.

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    This AR-type weapons episod is just wierd. Some headlines say that Zakhartshenko presented this found weapon to OSCE observers. I'm sure those specialists would take producer's data and serial numbers. Has anyone heard OSCE statement? I suspect that the rifle is Georgia-Russia war trophy taken by propaganda guys to Donbass.
    Stupid thing is to deliver AR type weapon to country where generations of men went through conscription training with Kalashnikovs. If I remeber correctly if Georgians had chance to choose between AR and AK, they took AK.
    Another stupid thing is to bring 5,56x45 weapons to siege situation, where rest of the guys are using 5,45x39 ammo.

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    First indication via twitter about this--if confirmed and true then it is a major escalation by Russia and then what will the West do as they do not have any other plan outside of sanctions and that has not stopped the mercenaries and Russian troops from their constant shellings and ground attacks as them have expanded their controlled territories by over 500 sq kms since Minsk and that is certainly not a "ceasefire".


    #Putin intends to escalate to full war - 2 #Russia Army Groups (about 1000 troops) cross into #Ukraine today #Donetsk
    pic.twitter.com/H63NsVVW6T

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaur View Post
    This AR-type weapons episod is just wierd. Some headlines say that Zakhartshenko presented this found weapon to OSCE observers. I'm sure those specialists would take producer's data and serial numbers. Has anyone heard OSCE statement? I suspect that the rifle is Georgia-Russia war trophy taken by propaganda guys to Donbass.
    Stupid thing is to deliver AR type weapon to country where generations of men went through conscription training with Kalashnikovs. If I remeber correctly if Georgians had chance to choose between AR and AK, they took AK.
    Another stupid thing is to bring 5,56x45 weapons to siege situation, where rest of the guys are using 5,45x39 ammo.
    kaur---fully agree with you---the high rate of fire by the 15 requires a constant ammo resupply and the weapon must be cleaned often otherwise it jams---it really is a strange story

    great for room to room but the AK is far better in the airport area

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