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    Michael McFaul ✔ @McFaul
    When I was ambassador, there were death threats against me. Upon investigation, they almost always came from crazy Russian nationalists.

    Putin is seriously trying to get ahead of this T72b2 tank that is rolling---this alone can cause major political problems and form a stronger opposition as they now have a martyr for the cause of political change.
    Putin Sends Telegram of Condolences to Nemtsov's Mother
    http://www.interpretermag.com/russia...-28-2015/#7189

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    #CSIMoscow Nemtsov tripped and fell on some Muslim bullets

    Did anyone mention in numerous stories and obits about Nemtsova that he was considered a likely Yeltsin successor a few years before Putin?

    Nemtsov silenced for his opposition to Putin's imperialism in the Crimea and East Ukraine http://khpg.org/index.php?id=1425080092http://khpg.org/index.php?id=1425080092

    Flowers for #Nemtsov outside Russian Embassy in Kyiv alongside #FreeSavchenko posters pic.twitter.com/0MX87clJKc

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    Kind of feel sorry for Russian FSB—now social media is checking each and every video coming out of Russia and on VK and noted the following already.

    The same man watching over the murder scene soon after #Nemstov was killed in front of Kremlin in #Moscow
    @tvrain pic.twitter.com/ZejR0Eqb5l

    Here he is again at the same site new position:
    pic.twitter.com/f8kpzd0dc1

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    To understand just where Putin is coming from read the following article:

    Putin’s Orthodox Jihad

    December 27, 2014

    http://20committee.com/2014/12/27/pu...rthodox-jihad/

    Excerpts taken from the article:

    What motivates this is a complex question. Putin is a complex character himself, with his worldview being profoundly shaped by his long service as a Soviet secret policeman; he exudes what Russians term Chekism – conspiracy-based thinking that sees plots abounding and is reflexively anti-Western, with heavy doses of machismo and KGB tough-talk. Hence persistent Western efforts to view Putin as any Western sort of democratic politician, albeit one with a strange affectation for judo and odd bare-chested photo-ops with scary wild animals, invariably miss the mark.

    This year ending also saw the mask drop regarding Putin’s ideology beyond his bone-deep Chekism. In his fire-breathing speech to the Duma in March when he announced Russia’s annexation of Crimea, Putin included not just venerable KGB classics like warnings about the Western Fifth Column and “national traitors,” but also paeans to explicit Russian ethnic nationalism buttressed by Orthodox mysticism, with citations of saints from millennia past. This was the culmination of years of increasingly unsubtle hints from Putin and his inner circle that what ideologically motivates this Kremlin is the KGB cult unified with Russian Orthodoxy. Behind the Chekist sword and shield lurks the Third Rome, forming a potent and, to many Russians, plausible worldview. That this take on the planet and its politics is intensely anti-Western needs to be stated clearly.

    But what of Putin’s actual beliefs? This knotty question is, strictly speaking, unanswerable, since only he knows his own soul. Putin’s powerful Chekism is beyond doubt, while many Westerners are skeptical that he is any sort of Orthodox believer. According to his own account, Putin’s father was a militant Communist while his mother was a faithful, if quiet, Orthodox believer; one wonders what holidays were like in the Putin household. He was baptized in secret as a child but was not any sort of engaged believer during his KGB service — that would have been impossible, not least due to the KGB’s role in persecuting religion — but by his own account, late in the Soviet period, Putin reconciled his Chekism with his faith by making the sign of the cross over his KGB credentials. By the late 1990’s, Putin was wearing his baptismal cross openly, for all bare-chested photo ops.

    The turn to faith in middle-age, after some sort of life crisis, is a staple of conversion and reversion stories. In his last years in power, Saddam Hussein began talking a lot about Islam openly, which was dismissed as political theater in the West, but in retrospect seems to have been at least somewhat sincere. Did Putin opt for Orthodoxy after a mid-life crisis? I am an Orthodox believer myself and, having carefully watched many video clips of Putin in church and at religious events, I can state without reservation that Putin knows what to do. His religious act — kissing icons, lighting candles, interacting with clerics — is flawless, so Putin is either a sincere Orthodox or he has devoted serious study to looking and acting like one.

    Whether this faith is genuine or a well-honed pose, Putin’s potent fusion of KGB values and Orthodoxy has been building for years, though few Westerners have noticed. Early in Putin’s years in the Kremlin, the younger generation of Federal Security Service (FSB) officers embraced a nascent ideology they termed “the system” (sistema), which was a sort of elitist Chekism — toughness free of corruption and based in patriotism — updated for the new 21st century. However, this could have limited appeal to the masses, so its place was gradually taken by a doctrine termed “spiritual security.” This involved the ideological fusion of the FSB and the Russian Orthodox Church (ROC), culminating in the 2002 dedication of an Orthodox church at the Lubyanka, the FSB — and former KGB’s — notorious Moscow headquarters. It suddenly became fashionable for senior FSB officers to have conversion experiences, while “spiritual security” offered Putin’s Russia a way to defend itself against what it has long seen as the encroachment of decadent post-modern Western values. Just how seriously Putin took all this was his statement that Russia’s “spiritual shield” was as important to her security as her nuclear shield.

    It is in this context that Putin’s comments at last year’s Valdai Club event ought to be seen:

    Another serious challenge to Russia’s identity is linked to events taking place in the world. Here there are both foreign policy and moral aspects. We can see how many of the Euro-Atlantic countries are actually rejecting their roots, including the Christian values that constitute the basis of Western civilization. They are denying moral principles and all traditional identities: national, cultural, religious and even sexual. They are implementing policies that equate large families with same-sex partnerships, belief in God with the belief in Satan.

    The excesses of political correctness have reached the point where people are seriously talking about registering political parties whose aim is to promote pedophilia. People in many European countries are embarrassed or afraid to talk about their religious affiliations. Holidays are abolished or even called something different; their essence is hidden away, as is their moral foundation. And people are aggressively trying to export this model all over the world. I am convinced that this opens a direct path to degradation and primitivism, resulting in a profound demographic and moral crisis.

    This week the ideological ante was upped by the Kremlin with the comments of Fr. Vsevolod Chaplin, a media gadfly cleric, who gave a very long newspaper interview in which he castigated, among other things, radical Islam, usury, and the West generally, but it was his comments on the current conflict with America that got all the attention. Chaplin minced no words, proclaiming that Russia’s God-given goal today is halting the global “American project.” As he explained:

    It is no coincidence that we have often, at the price of our own lives … stopped all global projects that disagreed with our conscience, with our vision of history and, I would say, with God’s own truth .. Such was Napoleon’s project, such was Hitler’s project. We will stop the American project too.”

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    To Understand Putin, Read Orwell

    Ukraine, Russia and the Big Lie.By TIMOTHY SNYDER

    September 03, 2014


    http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...l#.VPGPSmA5DIU

    Anyone who wants to understand the current Russian position on Ukraine would do well to begin with George Orwell’s classic, 1984. The connections go deeper than the adjective “Orwellian”: the structure and the wisdom of the book are guides, often frighteningly precise ones, to current events.

    The easiest way to begin, in light of the now entirely open Russian invasion of Ukraine, is with “War is Peace,” one of the slogans of the imagined empire in Orwell’s tale. After all, every attempt thus far at negotiation and cease-fire has been accompanied by a Russian escalation, to the point where we can be certain that this is not a coincidence. If Russian President Vladimir Putin meets with other leaders, we must simply expect that this is cover for the latest outrage, as with the entrance of Russian troops, armor and artillery during the recent talks in Minsk.

    Sound familiar with the Minsk 2 all night agreement and then the subsequent Russian assault on Debaltseve?
    AND the West response--virtual silence from the French and Germans.

    But we need to dig a bit deeper into the plot for the three concepts needed to understand this very strange war, in which Putin has radicalized Russian politics, destroyed a European peace order, challenged Europeans’ assumptions about their entire future — and even threatened nuclear war. Every reason proffered to explain a war that is pointless to the point of nihilism is obviously bogus or self-contradictory or both. To grasp this horrible event in which people are killing and dying for no discernible reason, we need to remember some key concepts from Orwell: Eurasia, doublethink and learning to love Big Brother.

    In Orwell’s 1984, one of the world powers is called Eurasia. Interestingly enough, Eurasia is the name of Russia’s major foreign policy doctrine. In Orwell’s dystopia, Eurasia is a repressive, warmongering state that “comprises the whole of the northern part of the European and Asiatic land-mass, from Portugal to the Bering Strait.” [U]In Russian foreign policy, Eurasia is a plan for the integration of all the lands from—you guessed it—Portugal to the Bering Strait. Orwell’s Eurasia practices “neo-Bolshevism”; Russia’s leading Eurasian theorist once called himself a “national Bolshevik.” This man, the influential Alexander Dugin, has long advocated that the Ukrainian state be destroyed, and has very recently proposed that Russia exterminate Ukrainians.

    Orwell can help us understand what is happening to us as if we make a good-faith effort to use Russian media official sources to try to understand the world. Russian propaganda about Ukraine is today’s doublethink: it requires that people, as Orwell put it, “hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing both of them.” Russian propaganda daily pounds out two sides to every story, both of which are false, and each of which contradicts the other. Consider the propositions in italics below, all of which should by now, after eight months of repetition, sound familiar.

    "One the one hand, Russia must invade Ukraine because the Ukrainian state is repressive. (In fact, Ukraine is a democracy with free expression and is in every respect a freer country than Russia.) On the other hand, Russia must intervene because the Ukrainian state does not exist. (In fact, it is just as functional as the Russian state, except in the problematic spheres of war, intelligence and propaganda.)"

    Timothy Snyder is Housum professor of History at Yale University and the author of Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin.

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    European social media picked up this specific CCTV camera in Moscow:

    This Kremlin surveillance camera was pointing directly at the spot when Boris #Nemtsov was murdered last night: pic.twitter.com/RouhA2aBkn

    NOTICE: pointed directly at the murder scene--what will the Russian “transparency” show us in the coming days????

    REMEMBER: those that have been in Moscow and around the Kremlin--there is not a inch of space not covered by MIA and FSB CCTV cameras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    European social media picked up this specific CCTV camera in Moscow:

    This Kremlin surveillance camera was pointing directly at the spot when Boris #Nemtsov was murdered last night: pic.twitter.com/RouhA2aBkn

    NOTICE: pointed directly at the murder scene --what will the Russian “transparency” show us in the coming days????

    REMEMBER: those that have been in Moscow and around the Kremlin--there is not a inch of space not covered by MIA and FSB CCTV cameras.
    LifeNews: Cars Found, Suspects Videotaped in Nemtsov Murder but Investi Committee Rejectshttp://lifenews.ru/news/150535

    Investigation committee knows the killers?????
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    Comment from a leading Black Wolf Russian biker gang member:

    Read it carefully as it reflects the true fear of Maidan.

    Zaldostanov, one of Antimaidan founders: 'Fear of death is the only way to stop Maidan in Rissia'
    via @Roman_Yhnovec pic.twitter.com/F4ucj30Rhc

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    John Schindler @20committee
    I know 1sthand of cases when FSB "tails" stopped crimes against surveillance targets. In this case, at best, FSB chose to let Nemtsov die

    Nemtsov had been under 24/7 human & tech FSB surveillance for many years. Nothing happened to him that the Kremlin didn't allow to happen.

    John Schindler @20committee
    Unless you, too, have experienced 24/7 FSB surveillance on their own turf, spare us the lectures: Kremlin knew everything Nemtsov did.

    A film by #Nemtsov dissecting #Kremlin reports and proving that #Russia is behind #MH17
    http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/02/2...emlin-sources/ … pic.twitter.com/AlANQVmTau

    Boris Nemtsov was to disclose Russia's part in Ukraine conflict, Ukraine's president said Feb 28, @interfaxua reports http://social.stratfor.com/4LH

    Chubais take on #Nemtsov assassination points at building tension over propaganda in Russia http://www.novayagazeta.ru/news/1692011.html … pic.twitter.com/AV1TH8xPKr
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    A short BBC report on how the murder is being reported and ends citing the head of RT:

    State-run channels devoted most of their bulletins to the story. Reports were respectful in tone, with comment from officials and MPs, and commemorative montages set to solemn music.
    That's pretty well explainable - Nemtsov was a member of The Family in 90's, but after Putin's succession he went astray, so even after death he commanded some respect from Yeltsin's cronies.


    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    To Understand Putin, Read Orwell
    To Understand Outlaw, read Orwell, especially "Politics and English language" ^_^

    In our time it is broadly true that political writing is bad writing. Where it is not true, it will generally be found that the writer is some kind of rebel, expressing his private opinions and not a ‘party line’. Orthodoxy, of whatever colour, seems to demand a lifeless, imitative style. The political dialects to be found in pamphlets, leading articles, manifestos, White papers and the speeches of undersecretaries do, of course, vary from party to party, but they are all alike in that one almost never finds in them a fresh, vivid, homemade turn of speech. When one watches some tired hack on the platform mechanically repeating the familiar phrases — bestial, atrocities, iron heel, bloodstained tyranny, free peoples of the world, stand shoulder to shoulder — one often has a curious feeling that one is not watching a live human being but some kind of dummy: a feeling which suddenly becomes stronger at moments when the light catches the speaker's spectacles and turns them into blank discs which seem to have no eyes behind them. And this is not altogether fanciful. A speaker who uses that kind of phraseology has gone some distance toward turning himself into a machine. The appropriate noises are coming out of his larynx, but his brain is not involved, as it would be if he were choosing his words for himself. If the speech he is making is one that he is accustomed to make over and over again, he may be almost unconscious of what he is saying, as one is when one utters the responses in church. And this reduced state of consciousness, if not indispensable, is at any rate favourable to political conformity.
    "One the one hand, Russia must invade Ukraine because the Ukrainian state is repressive. (In fact, Ukraine is a democracy with free expression and is in every respect a freer country than Russia.)
    Hilarious!!

    Free speech Index, 2014

    http://rsf.org/index2014/ru-index2014.php

    Finland 1
    USA 46
    Ukraine 127
    Russia 148

    Reporters without borders: Summary of Attacks on Media

    http://en.rsf.org/ukraine-summary-of...014,46265.html

    18.02.2015 - Ukraine withdraws accreditation from reporters for Russian media
    16.02.2015 - Journalist and blogger jailed on treason charges
    10.02.2014 - Bill would jail those who “deny or defend” Russian aggression
    03.01.2015 - Masked men attack TV station’s headquarters in Kiev
    11.09.2014 - 35 Russian journalists banned from visiting Ukraine
    09.09.2014 - 15 Russian TV stations formally banned
    and so forth
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    Quote Originally Posted by mirhond View Post
    That's pretty well explainable - Nemtsov was a member of The Family in 90's, but after Putin's succession he went astray, so even after death he commanded some respect from Yeltsin's cronies.

    To Understand Outlaw, read Orwell, especially "Politics and English language" ^_^

    Hilarious!!

    Free speech Index, 2014

    http://rsf.org/index2014/ru-index2014.php

    Finland 1
    USA 46
    Ukraine 127
    Russia 148

    Reporters without borders: Summary of Attacks on Media http://en.rsf.org/ukraine-summary-of-attacks-on-media-11-09-2014,46265.html

    and so forth
    so mirhond --let me get this straight--you are in effect stating for all see that the "freedom of speech and writing" is truly alive and well in the current Soviet Union sorry Russia???

    come on mirhond even you do not believe that right?

    let's see---the Russian FSB spent exactly TWO hours "investigating" a crime scene they then "washed away all forensics"---THEN they spent NINE hours tearing his apartment apart and taking all his computers--Seems that in the Soviet Union sorry Russia it is the victim that is investigated NOT the criminal---a totally new form of fighting criminal activity right???

    LOOKING probably for the expose he was going to release on the Russian involvement in eastern Ukraine.

    so mirhond---that rates as what in the Soviet Union sorry Russia---"freedom of speech and protection of investigative journalists"---really....?

    PERFECT example of the great Soviet sorry Russian FSB investigative powers in the world's leading "freedom of speech and writing" nation.

    check theses CCTVs located exactly at the scene of the execution--you cannot state "they were all not functioning" especially so close to the famous walls-

    We won't see this footage either:
    Cameras on the #Moscow bridge where #Nemtsov was killed.
    pic.twitter.com/2rM7m55lkB

    NOT a single photo or a video of the murderer or the execution team from this great famous investigative FSB team---strange is it not?????

    one would think that in a open "freedom of speech" country you claim the SU sorry RU is--- the videos would be immediately released in what the SU sorry RU stated would be a "fair and transparent investigation into the execution". BUT I guess one could say "silence" is a form of "freedom of speech"?????

    has not happened did it--well at least there is a reward----well so much for the so called SU sorry RU "freedom of speech"

    but there has never been "freedom of speech" in the Soviet Union sorry Russia has it mirhond--but wait you are expressing it here at SWJ right?????

    WAIT---found the "famous Russian freedom of speech" and it is called "propaganda"..........

    The key theme by Kremlin trolls is: "Protest march was a failure, too few people". Yep, seems so. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_BKjmiXIAADXuJ.jpg:large

    BUT wait.......they cannot even count people at a demo-so "seeing freedom of speech" might be hard unless it hit them full in the face--strange???

    hey mirhond---check this from the "land of freedom of speech called social media"---they were QUICKER than the FSB.....

    Super enlarged part of #Nemtsov CCTV where follower can be seen disappearing after cleaning car passed. http://youtu.be/pUi9SIIYF4w

    MORE GREAT examples of the "famous soviet sorry Russian "freedom of speech"

    INFOGRAPHIC #Russian opposition members killed since #Putin rise to power. A long bloody trail. pic.twitter.com/vQTpMFUUce
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    Quote Originally Posted by mirhond View Post
    That's pretty well explainable - Nemtsov was a member of The Family in 90's, but after Putin's succession he went astray, so even after death he commanded some respect from Yeltsin's cronies.

    To Understand Outlaw, read Orwell, especially "Politics and English language" ^_^

    Hilarious!!

    Free speech Index, 2014 http://rsf.org/index2014/ru-index2014.php

    Finland 1
    USA 46
    Ukraine 127
    Russia 148

    Reporters without borders: Summary of Attacks on Media

    http://en.rsf.org/ukraine-summary-of...014,46265.html

    and so forth
    mirhond---here is a great "freedom of speech" comment from a Russian troll today referencing WHY 18 CCTV cameras were not working at the time of the execution AND 5 were pointed at the exact execution site.

    The #CIA messed with the cameras around the Kremlin AND on the bridge before they killed #Nemtsov!!

    AND now from the actual Russian security department handling the CCTVs---they were ALL down for maintenance at exactly 2230 at the exact time of the execution.

    come on mirhond ALL down for maintenance and it was the CIA BUT hey that is "freedom of speech" in the SU sorry Russia.
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    Posted before the latest assassination of a member of the opposition The Absurd world of Russian Public Opinion is a reflection on said sad state.

    Hurray! We are attacking! Thank God! Many are dead and wounded! Thank God!" Thus exclaimed "good soldier Svejk" from the eponymous immortal novel by Jaroslav Hasek. And Russian public opinion today is no less absurd.
    As I have written a year ago this conflict can take many years. Much poison has been injected into the minds of many Russians through relentless and massive propaganda falling on often fertile soil.

    However this too will pass one day, likely far away. The economy is now heading south at a surprising speed and we will see how long Putin's apparat will endure economic hardship. The war is of course of great importance for the internal politics because imaginative external enemies help to the gang on top to conserve the power.

    Thankfully most people in Europe or the USA are hardly affected by the downwards spiral of the Russian economy. If weakening Russia was a goal for some Western players then it was achieved brilliantly by Putin and company who however did a great job on getting a far tighter grip on power. Never let a selfcaused crisis go to waste.
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