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    Ukraine activists (Tatars) prevent repair on power lines to #Russia(n) occupied #Crimea
    https://translate.google.co.uk/trans...93&prev=search … pic.twitter.com/UNPLGAmnGt

    Video: #Ukraine sends units to secure destroyed #Crimea power lines last night.Not equipped for crowd control, leave
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HykyuHq50
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    We did discuss the great economic dependence of Crimea on the lifelines coming down from the north.

    Agriculture has already been hard hit by the disputes about water supply. Obviously a lack of electricity wouldn't exactly help the dire economic situation on the penisula. Not that Ukraine's economy is doing well or Russia's for that matter....
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    Europe's right-wing and far-left populists are winning the social media battle
    http://econ.st/1MurvJW
    pic.twitter.com/lxNHW8DwpD

    Power cut-offs in Crimea raise an old disarming question
    http://www.odessatalk.com/2015/11/po...ming-question/
    pic.twitter.com/kInDxRlvYw

    Yenakiieve @olgarjpthju RU source reports: at 22:39 near water faciities a gas pipeline was blown up.
    pic.twitter.com/1FGw5F8xk6
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    Something new.
    Crimean authorities: the power line could be blown up by Islamic radicals

    http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/22-nove...could-be-blown … via @RT_russian

    We have now formally reached the outer limits of the Russian altered state of reality.......

    they keep trying this Russia accuses #CrimeanTatar leaders of recruiting for Islamic State
    http://khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1444434154
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    Before the power cut, #Ukraine charged #Russia 5 Eurocents for each kW/hr.
    My electricity provider charges me 25 Cents for the same amount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Before the power cut, #Ukraine charged #Russia 5 Eurocents for each kW/hr.
    My electricity provider charges me 25 Cents for the same amount.
    Please, the relevant wholesale price your utility pays is much much lower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    When "Moscow was destroying power towers in #Donbas, nobody moralized about, none concerned if Ukrainians would die in hospitals"

    But when Putin is on the receiving end all panic.......and since when annexation is legit? this is just adequate response to Russian occupation for over a year already.......this is Hybrid War, and this is supported by Crimean refugees and by majority of Ukrainians!

    VIDEO #Ukraine activists (Tatars) block police etc from repairing power to #Crimea
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HykyuHq50 … pic.twitter.com/J7KYMlhioL

    Crimea [but Sevastopol]: forced outage schedule, power on 2hrs a day
    https://archive.is/dnreM @crimea_gov
    Bread lines on top of electricity turned off.........

    If #Crimea ppl die b/c of the blackout, the pylon attackers bare responsibility.
    http://ru.krymr.org/content/news/27380511.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulenspiegel View Post
    Please, the relevant wholesale price your utility pays is much much lower.
    Check the current German utility rates that the individual energy firms are charged when they purchase it on the open energy markets---be sure to notice the difference from energy generated by the old means oil, gas, coal vs eco generated.

    At the most 10 cents less than the 25 cents---the rest flows to government in the form of taxes and charges laid on the price to support the eco market ie a subsidy.

    BTW---Russia is charging the Ukraine on electricity flowing from them to the Ukraine an average of 11.8 cents per kw--the cheap rate of 5 cent was negotiated before the annexation of Crimea---what is causing heartburn is that the power contract was rewritten on demands by Russia that in fact is a de facto recognition of the Crimea annexation---meaning the Crimea is referred to as the Crimea of the Russian Federation.
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    Dzhemiliev: Free Political Prisoners & Restore Rights if You Want Power Back...
    http://fb.me/2s1HxkBrx
    khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1448248390 …
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Ukraine activists (Tatars) prevent repair on power lines to #Russia(n) occupied #Crimea
    https://translate.google.co.uk/trans...93&prev=search … pic.twitter.com/UNPLGAmnGt

    Video: #Ukraine sends units to secure destroyed #Crimea power lines last night.Not equipped for crowd control, leave
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HykyuHq50 …
    Polling conducted with 6000 Crimea residents --89% were in favor of the power cuts....there is an increasing number of disillusioned former Ukrainians who are not happy at all with the so called Russian support for Crimea...bread shortages, high prices for poor quality food and the tourism has totally collapsed which has resulted in high unemployment rates.

    Also the agriculture production has taken a major hit.

    Next to the power cut---the blockade of the logistic trucks carrying supplies from the Ukraine has hurt in far more ways than initially thought--Russia boasted it could replace these 300 trucks a day within two weeks...well they have not and it tells.

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    Dozen #Russian #tanks close to #border between Crimea, mainland Ukraine - Interior Ministry
    http://bit.ly/1LvfYpR
    pic.twitter.com/F4oS55Mb8G

    Russia pulls tanks, Grads to Crimea-Kherson demarcation line in wake of blackout - MIA official
    http://www.unian.info/society/119110...-official.html

    Russia moved tanks to #Ukraine border & threatens more invasion if electricity to #Crimea not restored. Laughable!
    If these tanks move,


    Does Putin seriously think that the Tartars will back down--truck traffic has been restricted, power cuts are easy to do and what about the key bridges into Crimea --they are not attackable........virtually every Tartar Ukrainian activist that has "disappeared since the takeover by Russia has "disappeared" and never found again---we are back to the NKVD days of Stalin inside Crimea...

    Actually this development is interesting in that many Ukrainians on the whole feel the current government has done nothing to recover Crimea and this is an easy pressure point on the Russians......they will never risk a full war over power lines now that they are basically fighting a two front war.

    What is equally interesting is that Russia thinks they can fight a two front war--even the US would have had a hard time years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Dzhemiliev: Free Political Prisoners & Restore Rights if You Want Power Back...
    http://fb.me/2s1HxkBrx
    khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1448248390 …
    Dzhemilev: Crimea blockade activists ready to allow repair of two transmission lines
    http://www.unian.info/politics/11910...nes.html<br /> … pic.twitter.com/N0oMEUEHRB
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Dozen #Russian #tanks close to #border between Crimea, mainland Ukraine - Interior Ministry
    http://bit.ly/1LvfYpR
    pic.twitter.com/F4oS55Mb8G

    Russia pulls tanks, Grads to Crimea-Kherson demarcation line in wake of blackout - MIA official
    http://www.unian.info/society/119110...-official.html …

    Russia moved tanks to #Ukraine border & threatens more invasion if electricity to #Crimea not restored. Laughable!
    If these tanks move,


    Does Putin seriously think that the Tartars will back down--truck traffic has been restricted, power cuts are easy to do and what about the key bridges into Crimea --they are not attackable........virtually every Tartar Ukrainian activist that has "disappeared since the takeover by Russia has "disappeared" and never found again---we are back to the NKVD days of Stalin inside Crimea...

    Actually this development is interesting in that many Ukrainians on the whole feel the current government has done nothing to recover Crimea and this is an easy pressure point on the Russians......they will never risk a full war over power lines now that they are basically fighting a two front war.

    What is equally interesting is that Russia thinks they can fight a two front war--even the US would have had a hard time years ago.
    Russian Black Sea Fleet is saying it hasn't noticed an "energy blockade" in Crimea, which of course means it has. Retribution brewing?

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    .@poroshenko considering official #Crimea blockade. Orders gov to halt motor/rail cargo traffic until final decision http://www.president.gov.ua/news/pre...iti-pita-36348

    Ukrainian President has now realized the depth of the current Ukrainian civil society dislike of his doing nothing to regain the Crimea.....and actually it is an interesting question...can in fact the Ukraine blockade Crimea similar to what they have done in eastern Ukraine and legally be within their rights as the annexation of Crimea was an illegal international law move by Putin.

    Poroshenko has also not yet filed damage claims with the IHRC/international court in Sweden for eastern Ukraine and the Crimea which can amount to literally billions of USDs and which based on the Kuwait decisions the Ukraine can takeover any Russian asset outside of Russia to repay the claims against them.

    Not exactly sure why he has been dragging his feet on the claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Check the current German utility rates that the individual energy firms are charged when they purchase it on the open energy markets---be sure to notice the difference from energy generated by the old means oil, gas, coal vs eco generated.

    At the most 10 cents less than the 25 cents---the rest flows to government in the form of taxes and charges laid on the price to support the eco market ie a subsidy.

    BTW---Russia is charging the Ukraine on electricity flowing from them to the Ukraine an average of 11.8 cents per kw--the cheap rate of 5 cent was negotiated before the annexation of Crimea---what is causing heartburn is that the power contract was rewritten on demands by Russia that in fact is a de facto recognition of the Crimea annexation---meaning the Crimea is referred to as the Crimea of the Russian Federation.
    Materials on contract for the supply of electricity to "some kind of Crimean Federal District" sent to prosecutor's office -@Yatsenyuk_AP

    Avakov: Ukraine may terminate the electricity supply to #Crimea in response to Russia's announced embargo as of Jan 1, 2016.

    Kiev's not formally supported #Crimea blockade until now. @poroshenko, @Yatsenyuk_AP, @AvakovArsen all on board. Watch for Kremlin response.

    Actually with the Russian announced blockade of all Ukrainian products on 1 Jan 2016 as a response to the EU Association Agreement going into effect---this might in fact been unintended consequences by the Russians on the part of that Russian embargo move.

    Anyway its an excellent leverage that the Ukraine has now and it will be legal based on the stated actions by Russia--they might regret having openly stated their embargo intentions.
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    Martynovsky: #RF forcefully changing demographics of UA. Many disappearances, deportations Tatars & even prisoners. pic.twitter.com/9C5wNtD74F

    Martynovsky: +500 properties, businesses in #Crimea destroyed/misappropriated by RF. Russian Orthodox Church takes over places of worship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Materials on contract for the supply of electricity to "some kind of Crimean Federal District" sent to prosecutor's office -@Yatsenyuk_AP

    Avakov: Ukraine may terminate the electricity supply to #Crimea in response to Russia's announced embargo as of Jan 1, 2016.

    Kiev's not formally supported #Crimea blockade until now. @poroshenko, @Yatsenyuk_AP, @AvakovArsen all on board. Watch for Kremlin response.

    Actually with the Russian announced blockade of all Ukrainian products on 1 Jan 2016 as a response to the EU Association Agreement going into effect---this might in fact been unintended consequences by the Russians on the part of that Russian embargo move.

    Anyway its an excellent leverage that the Ukraine has now and it will be legal based on the stated actions by Russia--they might regret having openly stated their embargo intentions.
    A bit to late since Russias wire from Krasnodar territory is finnished in december and this will have little effect.

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    Appears German interests seem to not care for the Ukraine these days and they desperately want to get back to business as normal with Putin....

    Let's see--cutting electricity to an illegally annexed Crimea by Russia is a crime, to massively violate Tartar human right in Crimea is a crime, killing 8K Ukrainians is a crime and the invasion of eastern Ukraine by Russia and her mercenaries I guess is also a crime....seems Germany had their priorities wrong these days...

    German Foreign Min spox Martin Shaefer says cutting of Crimea's power supply is a "crime," wants an investigation. http://ria.ru/world/20151123/1326884402.html

    Begs the question---does he also want an investigation into the complete theft of Ukrainian factories by Russia, an investigation into the complete theft of the Ukrainian grain harvest and to the theft of hundreds of tons of coal by Russia---there seems to be a double standard at work here.....


    BUT NOTICE he said nothing about this and the complete violation by Russia of implementing Minsk 2.......how strange is that??

    Heavy Fighting Across Front Line Last Night With More Fighting South Of Donetsk Reported Today
    http://www.interpretermag.com/ukrain...rontier/#11178

    AND he definitely forgot about the France German push inside Minsk 2 to grant full immunity for war crimes committed by Russia and her mercenaries inside eastern Ukraine....
    Romanov: France Germany push nonimpunity for grave crimes commited in UA through Minsk. many thousands killed without repercussion already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Martynovsky: #RF forcefully changing demographics of UA. Many disappearances, deportations Tatars & even prisoners. pic.twitter.com/9C5wNtD74F

    Martynovsky: +500 properties, businesses in #Crimea destroyed/misappropriated by RF. Russian Orthodox Church takes over places of worship.
    Russian policy forcing migration: Russian citizens are encouraged to move to #Crimea.


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    Crimean Tatars say that electric power lines going to Crimea from Ukraine could be blown up by Russian saboteurs
    https://twitter.com/5channel/status/668851632482873344

    Crimea blackout from space
    pic.twitter.com/g27hqr3OKQ MT @belpartisan
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