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    Charles Lister

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    200+ civilians killed & 300+ wounded in 48hrs of sustained aerial & ground-to-ground bombing of besieged eastern #Aleppo

    = more war crimes.



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    "The situation is catastrophic. Destruction and death, everywhere around us."
    http://aje.io/8yzr

    AND the response from the Obama/Rhodes/Kerry WH......is ABSOLUTLY nothing........ not even a small comment.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Aleppo the test of Faith......Muslim, Christian, Jewish............and yes even non believers........

    THAT is to say....all except the Obama/Rhodes/Kerry WH that are willingly supporting both Assad and Putin as they fully titled Syria into the Iranian "sphere of influence"...a largely 73% Sunni nation state so that Iran can continue their land corridor to Hezbollah and still support Khomeini revolutionary Islam.......

    Russia would never contest a Western imposed no-fly zone in #Syria, as that would expose what crap S-400, Su-34 & Su-35 actually are.

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    Aleppo: #Assad/#Russia|n airstrikes have destroyed the @SyriaCivilDef HQ in #Hanano District today.

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    Mohammed Alloush says bombing of civilians in #Aleppo is responsibility of "Friends of #Syria" who block opposition acquisition of MANPADS:
    https://twitter.com/mohammed_aloush/...4547303219200#


    WOW...the Brits say what apparently the Obama WH cannot say....."war crimes against humanity"...

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    #BREAKING: #British FM Johnson: #Russia is guilty of protracting war in #Syria and of war crimes


    “[Russian Pres. Vladimir Putin’s] regime is not only handing Assad the revolver, he is using the revolver himself,”
    - @BorisJohnson
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    Aleppo: Liwa al-Quds pick-up truck captured by rebels in #Handarat.

    Daraa: Heavy #Assad airstrikes on #Dael town now.

    Damascus: Heavy #Assad & #Russia|n airstrikes on #Douma now.

    Syria #IS launch assault on Al Jufrah village & industry area in #DeirEzZor
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35...5112&z=15&m=b#

    Mohammad Hamadi, a nurse in a makeshift hospital in #Aleppo, died in a #Russia(n) airstrike on Tareeq Al Bab in #Aleppo city yesterday

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    129 civilians were killed by #AssadPutin on Saturday, incl. 27 children.
    106 of the victims died in and around #Aleppo.
    - LCC


    See this!
    The #Russian bombs hit so deep and heavy, they even destroy the canalisation under rebel-held #Aleppo.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0winVCBqNF8#…

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    Total devastation and children in the ruins after #Russia's yesterday war crimes in #Aleppo city.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMvV8VwTcGM#…

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    For the whole night, #Huraytan (near #Aleppo) was hit by #Russian incendiary bomb attacks.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1UDVG_I9uM#…
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    Russian Syrian Express.......

    A renumbered Admiral Grigorovich makes her southbound passage in the early Sunday morning. Her number was 745. Now it's 494

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    The Russian version of their Syrian "truth" released by the Russian UK Embassy which has had the lead in English propaganda statements about both eastern Ukraine and now it seems Syria...........


    Watch how Russian 6Ds propaganda works...and try to pick out how many are used.....Distort, Deflect, Dismay, Deflect all designed to create Doubt and Distrust....

    24.09.2016
    Why not give the Syrians a break? (by Ambassador Yakovenko for RBTH)

    It was in the fertile soil of the ongoing civil conflict that ISIS expanded to Syria. Ever since, Russia has been urging the establishment of a common front of the international community against terrorists, including the al-Qaeda linked Jabhat al-Nusra, which despite its recent rebranding continues to be a terrorist organization. We agree on that with our U.S. partners, as testified to by the Lavrov-Kerry accords, reached in Geneva along the lines agreed by presidents Putin and Obama. Russia insists on declassifying this deal, so that there is not the slightest whiff of secret diplomacy about it. Terrorists played a key and leading role in the fight against government forces.
    The battle for Aleppo is a case in point. The fight against terrorism creates common ground for all Syrians. Most of the terrorist fighters in Syria are foreigners, whose agenda has nothing to do with the interests and aspirations of the Syrian people. In fact, the terrorists have hijacked the cause of the opposition. This major factor distorting the entire Syrian situation has to be eliminated.
    As agreed by Russia and the U.S. in their capacity as co-chairs of the International Syria Support Group, the opposition groups ought to disentangle themselves from the terrorists on the ground, to be part of the cessation of hostilities (CofH) and to sit at the table of inclusive negotiations on Syria’s future, as provided for in the UN Security Council resolution 2254. That is a key priority in making the CofH sustainable.
    Russia and the U.S. have agreed to co-ordinate their strikes at terrorist targets in Syria and, for that purpose, help the true opposition sever its unholy alliances with terrorists. This will go a long way in ensuring that humanitarian aid reaches all those in need throughout Syria.
    The Centre for Reconciliation of the Opposing Sides, established by the Russian military, has been brokering support for the ceasefire at the grassroots and delivering humanitarian assistance. As a result, about 600 villages and 69 armed groups now abide by the cessation of hostilities co-sponsored by Russia and the U.S. in February.
    The Syrian situation is complicated by regional rivalries. The conflict is being used to reorder regional politics along the lines of Sunni-Shia confrontation. That is why some insist on turning Syria into a Sunni state, not a secular democracy. So far, all the attempts to impose a “Sunni alternative” on Syria proved to be a cover-up for a terrorist takeover.
    No one in Syria expected the conflict to be of such magnitude and to last so long. From the outset, many in Syria were misled by the precedent of Western military intervention in Libya, which the Foreign Affairs Committee in its latest report strongly condemns as a blunder. Had it not been for that, people on both sides of the civil conflict would have acted more responsibly. People know now what life under terrorist rule is like. There are more than enough grounds for a sober reassessment of the situation by all, including outside players. Why not give the Syrians a break and let them decide for themselves?
    There is no reasonable alternative to a moderate politics of reconciliation and return to a peaceful life. Regional players and the international community at large should help in the economic reconstruction and social rehabilitation of this country. The world let the Syrians down in the past. We cannot fail them now.

    NOTE...notice just how he avoids saying "there is nothing but a military solution available and we are using it" WHEREAS Obama states "there can be no military solution"...HOW wrong was Obama???
    NOTICE the Russian ambassador refers to the recent US/Russia so called ceasefire as if it was a done deal....BUT he utterly failed to mention both Assad and the Russian MoD cancelled the ceasefire AND then proceeded to air strike a agreed to UN/SRC aid convoy....claiming it was hit by a US drone carrying 250lb Russian bombs.....and that drone dropped over 18 bombs......





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    The same Russian bots who were pushing the "anti-bellingcat" report are now pushing claims the photos from the UN convoy attack are fake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Aleppo: #Assad/#Russia|n airstrikes have destroyed the @SyriaCivilDef HQ in #Hanano District today.

    Charles Lister

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    Mohammed Alloush says bombing of civilians in #Aleppo is responsibility of "Friends of #Syria" who block opposition acquisition of MANPADS:
    https://twitter.com/mohammed_aloush/...4547303219200#


    WOW...the Brits say what apparently the Obama WH cannot say....."war crimes against humanity"...

    Al Arabiya English

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    #BREAKING: #British FM Johnson: #Russia is guilty of protracting war in #Syria and of war crimes


    “[Russian Pres. Vladimir Putin’s] regime is not only handing Assad the revolver, he is using the revolver himself,”
    - @BorisJohnson
    BUT WAIT...Brit double standards .......

    Meanwhile British government accepts Assad's request to block Syrian activist from traveling. What's up @BorisJohnson ???

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    Diplomatic thinking in the US & EU is beginning to shift on #Syria.

    #Russia’s attack on aid convoy & #Aleppo onslaught is having an effect.

    Hawkish voices from UK, France (+ regional states) beginning to show some foresight in #Washington.

    180° shift in assessment of #Russia.

    The idea that a regime victory would lead to enforced stability in #Syria is a *total* fantasy.

    Status quo is *not* sustainable.

    BUT WAIT...the Obama WH is only smiling and nodding their heads nothing else happens though.....

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    Syria #Hama Rebels seized 2 barriers btw Kubbariyah & Kawkab
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35...594&z=14&m=b#…

    N. #Hama: Rebel offensive ongoing as they took 2 barriers this morning & launched operations to storm Al-Qarah.
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=35...32352&z=13&m#…

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    Russian Su-25SM3 war planes spotted returning to #Syria fitted w/ the latest SOLT-25 thermal imaging & Vitebsk active protection systems
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    Assad helicopters attacked @SyriaCivilDef HQ in #Hanano with Barrel bombs this morning putting it out of service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    CrowBat........I keep going back to the Obama 20,000 word interview and rereading it...it does appear that in his assumed genius of ethical FP he somehow "forgot" the sectarian aspect, the Khomeini/KSA rivalry, revolutionary Islam, and the famous Khomeini "Green Crescent" statements.
    I see this different.

    Before explaining how do I see it, let me observe I'll now post a few things that are likely to make me extremely unpopular here (at least they already made me extremely unpopular in quite a few other places). Indeed, it's going to probably cause not only a few to declare me 'anti-US', especially 'anti-Israel', and some even 'anti-Semitic' and 'conspiracy theorist'. Let me observe that nothing of this is the case: I'm merely going to explain my conclusions, based on 30+ years of research about the Middle East (and specially countries like Iran, Syria, Iraq, etc., and their, and US and Israeli mutual politics and relations).

    Namely, I doubt he (Oblabla) forgot about anything. If it would be that way, one could only wonder how comes. There is simply no logical explanation for this. Actually: explanations are not only available, but perfectly logical too.

    I'm sorry to say it, but when it comes to countries like Syria, the USA have no own foreign policy. Means: the US foreign policy for such important countries like Syria is dictated by Israeli interests.

    Israelis are not interested in some sort of peaceful, pluralist, democratic Syria - and that for many of reasons that are important to them. They know very well, first thing such a Syria would do would be to open negotiations for return of the Golan Heights. And they are not the least interested in negotiating about this topic (not only because this is one of three major aquifiers of Israel, but also because they know their case would not stand any international jurisdiction; on the contrary, they're meanwhile argumenting that 'Golan is longer a part of Israel than it used to be a part of Syria', and similar nonsense).

    Secondly, they know that such Syria would be no threat - not even a theoretic one (like Assad's regime) - for Israel.

    Thirdly, such Syria would not have IRGC bases on its soil, nor could/would it tolerate Hezbollah presence.

    These two arguments are particularly important then the experience ever since the 1950s and 1960s has shown (and one needs not much more but read books by Dayan, Ben Gurion etc.), that Israel 'needs' a sort of 'mortal/extistential threat from abroad': that's stimulating donations, technology transfer, and provision of military aid (primarily from the USA of course).

    (Of course, one could say that Oblabla is not in particularly good relations with Netanyahu. No doubt, this is correct. However, it means not that Oblabla's administration curbed US donations, flow of arms and/or technology transfer to Israel in the last eight years. On the contrary: this was even increased. And not only that: many of decisions very important for the future of the US military were based on 'experiences' provided by what various consultants in the DC see as 'our friends there'. ... BTW, this is where you can add that idiotic meddling of the Pentagon and the DIA into the US foreign policy, i.e. these 'outplaying' the State Departments when it comes to 'impressing' their opinions and politics upon Oblabla: namely, and despite all the possible official limitations on connections of that kind, a great deal of what the Pentagon and the DIA think they 'know' about Syria, is provided through various 'unofficial channels' - from precisely 'that one source', namely Israel. BTW, this is something I really know 'first hand', then I've eye-witnessed relevant 'discussions' not only 'dozens of times'.)

    Whichever way one turns it: since Israeli interests are perfectly in line with Oblabla's own idea about 'not getting involved anywhere in the Middle East, no matter the cost or consequences', the issue of 'not getting involved in Syria' became one of (supposedly) higher national interests.

    And that's it.

    From that POV, it's actually irrelevant whether then he forgot, ignored, has no clue about, or can't care less about the other 'conglomerate of crucial interests there', be this the sectarian aspect, or Iran/Saudi Arabia rivalry etc. That's simply not important - because what is important for the USA in such cases (like Syria) is what Israel thinks.

    This is especially obvious when it comes to that supposed Iran/Saudi Arabia rivalry. Sure, there is rivalry, but this was always around, yet never before dominating the scene like it does recently.

    But foremost: who came to the idea that the IRGC launched its military intervention in Syria because of 'rivalry with Saudi Arabia'?

    Sorry, no clue. I'm only sure it wasn't me.

    Why is this important?

    Well, because the IRGC is not in Syria for something like 'countering Saudis' - like so many are babbling around. The IRGC is there for the purpose of spreading its hegemony. The IRGC knows Syrians - in general - are even nowadays (and after all the terror they went through), no extremists, and not receptive for Wahhabism. It knows the numbers are simply against local Alawites and local Shi'a, which is contrary to Lebanon.

    So, why is then the IRGC there at all? It's there with the same, lame purpose of preventing Syrians from making their own decisions about their future - for which it squashed the uprising in Iran, back in 2009.

    Surely, one could say that the IRGC has a secondary interest in confronting Israel. That's so because just like it's 'good' for Israel whenever it finds itself confronting some kind of 'mortal danger' (because this is stimulating provision of donations, technology transfer and US arms deliveries etc.), so it's also 'good' for the IRGC to be able to make claims it's 'confronting the Zionist enemy'.

    But, that's a lame excuse. The IRGC would never come to the idea to openly, 'frontally' confront Israel. All it's doing in this regards is 'just enough for PR purposes'.

    So, the actual conclusion is: a sovereign, pluralist Syria is simply something that's in nobody's interest: not in that of the USA, not in that of Russia, not in that of Assad, not in that of the IRGC, not in that of Israel, though yes: even not that of Saudi Arabia, or Qatar, or Turkey etc.

    In other words: this cluster-f... in Syria is actually in almost everybody's interest, so no surprise it goes on, and on, and on and on...

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    Hama: Rebels destroyed 1 #Assad T-72 tank, a 23mm gun and killed many pro-#Assad forces at #Qarah village today

    "The only way to take [eastern Aleppo] is by such monstrous atrocities that it would resonate for generations."
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201..._iOSApp_Other#

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    Default Aleppo under siege

    Trying to make sense of Aleppo today:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-37454637

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    A tad off topic for here but the Russian non linear warfare has two key components 1) cyber warfare and 2) information warfare........

    What we are facing in the consumer wave of new gadgets is the so called "Internet of Things"......IoT.....with say a smart refrigerator or TV or CCTV etc.....

    This botnet with 145607 cameras/dvr (1-30Mbps per IP) is able to send >1.5Tbps DDoS. Type: tcp/ack, tcp/ack+psh, tcp/syn.

    For those that do not understand this tech speak ...it was a massive really massive DDoS attack ...coming from camera's.......

    The power wasn't all put into one server, it was used on multiple servers around the world, different companies ect

    This is the daily "war" I deal with......and it is getting worse by the day.....

    For example western MSM rarely reports on the ongoing Syrian cyber attacks against KSA, Jordan, UAE and or Kuwait almost daily these days....
    6 Ways to #Protect your #Internet of Things from #Hackers
    http://www.hacksurfer.com/posts/6-wa...-from-hackers#

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    If Israel had dropped one bomb on Aleppo world would be up in arms, massive protests, emergency meetings. Now city being pulverized. Silence

    Russian info warfare hard at work......

    Obama: "ALL OF US can be co-workers with God."

    #Russia's gov't-sponsored Vesti: "U.S. claims to be in partnership with God."

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    Hama: Rebels destroyed an #Assad Mig-23 warplane with Grad rockets on #Hama Military Airport.

    Hama Military Airport was hit by 30 Grad rockets today.

    Syrian FM, Dep PM Walid Moallem's speech before the UN General Assembly

    He claimed that 380,000 terrorist have entered Syrian since 2011,the SAA has killed 95,000 and 120,000 have returned home.....

    Engl video https://www.c-span.org/video/?415779...mbly-address#…
    Engl text http://sana.sy/en/?p=88920#

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    Aleppo: 60 civilians confirmed killed by #Russia|n airstrikes with cluster bombs on Shaar & Tariq Al-Bab Districts, #Aleppo City.

    Aleppo: 630+ #Syria|n civilians were killed by #Assad & #Putin airstrikes this week, including 135+ children & 100+ women

    7 brigades announce joining al Safwa Battalion in N. #Aleppo
    https://youtu.be/FiaQ3Nux9gM

    FSA groups release a joint statement about regime and Russian escalations in Syria.

    Rahman corps targeting regime fighters on two bridges front #Ghouta

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    Russia Syrian Express........

    #ВМФ #ЧФ BSF Tapir class LST Nikolai Filchenkov rejoins Russia's #Syria campaign after 312 days & transits Bosphorus en route to #Tartus

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