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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Azor...and there is absolutely no connections between Trump and his staff and Russians.....?????

    Steele got it right.....why is it strange to think otherwise....I once had an excellent HUMINT trainer who had served as a German Army intelligence officer (LT) on the East Front during WW2 (he was part of the Gehlen intelligence group who later formed the German BND) who when I asked him something that sounded strange...his reply...."what do you think"...meaning his view is that the human is capable of a lot of things and if I the huminter felt that it was possible write it up because 9 out of 10 times it will be correct and the one time being wrong is acceptable in the humint business....

    Wow, the Post's David Ignatius on Flynn and the Russians.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini....ae8d7e453fff#

    REMEMBER Flynn is not yet officially a representative of the US government nor is Trump yet ...YET both he and Trump act as if they are now running the government....
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    Biggest deal about last night's Flynn story is that as career MI he surely knows calls to the RUEMBDC are intercepted. He simply didn't care.

    AND that is dangerous for someone with a TS/SCI clearance who has already once violated massively security regulations causing the deaths of two Americans in AFG
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Azor...now I am more than convinced the bulk of the materials released are valid....his sources were largely business types and that explains the look and feel that the access of the individuals reporting had and seems they were involved in actual conversations and or near ongoing conversations where they could overhear information...common for HUMINT collection.....

    BUT this below seals the accuracy of the memo's...if he handled as a MI6 case officer this particular cross over Russian high level agent then the MI6 placed him into a different league....only the best in this business handle such high level cross overs....


    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 1h
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    It now turns out that the phony allegations against me were put together by my political opponents and a failed spy afraid of being sued....

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    Totally made up facts by sleazebag political operatives, both Democrats and Republicans - FAKE NEWS! Russia says nothing exists. Probably...

    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 47m
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    What are Hillary Clinton's people complaining about with respect to the F.B.I. Based on the information they had she should never.....

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    released by "Intelligence" even knowing there is no proof, and never will be. My people will have a full report on hacking within 90 days!

    BLUF....NOW APPEARS Trump and his group are going to rewrite the US IC Russian hacking report???????
    APPEARS he evidently lied at his own press conference when he stated he had accepted the IC report on Russian hacking....


    Concerns the individual behind the recently 17 raw humint intelligence report on Trump

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...cid=spartanntp
    Do you realize when Trump says "my people," he is specifically not referring to US-IC? Who are "his people," then?

    The FSB/GRU????? OR Breitbart and company or the KKK or the alt right???

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    There is a brave New World out there and I am afraid both Trump and Giuliani are not up for it....
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ackers-blow-up...

    Mystery Hackers Blow Up Secret NSA Hacking Tools in ‘Final F--k You’
    A gang of elite hackers, believed by many to be Russian, say they’re quitting—just as Donald Trump gets ready to enter the Oval Office.

    Kevin Poulsen
    01.13.17 7:13 AM ET
    A mysterious hacking group has been bedeviling the U.S. intelligence community for months, releasing a tranche of secret NSA hacking tools to the public while offering to sell even more for the right price. Now with barely a week to go before Donald Trump’s inauguration, the self-styled “Shadow Brokers” on Thursday announced that they were packing it in.

    “So long, farewell peoples. TheShadowBrokers is going dark, making exit,” the group wrote on its darknet site. “Continuing is being much risk and bull####, not many bitcoins.” The message was accompanied by a parting gift, described by the group as a “final #### you”: an apparently-complete NSA backdoor kit targeting the Windows operating system. The kit is comprised of 61 malicious Windows executables, only one of which was previously known to anti-virus vendors.

    The Shadow Brokers emerged in August with the announcement that they’d stolen the hacking tools used by a sophisticated computer intrusion operation known as the Equation Group, and were putting them up for sale to the highest bidder.

    It was a remarkable claim, because the Equation Group is generally understood to be part of the NSA’s elite Tailored Access Operations program and is virtually never detected, much less penetrated. The Equation Group was, in a sense, the rough equivalent to the Russian “Cozy Bear” crew, now blamed for the DNC hacks.

    Except the American hackers operated for at least 14 years as virtual ghosts, until 2015 when the Russia-based cybersecurity firm Kaspersky Labs gathered enough evidence to prove that they exist.

    It soon emerged that the Shadow Brokers really had the goods. Released along with the announcement was a huge cache of specialized malware, including dozens of backdoor programs and 10 exploits, two of them targeting previously-unknown security holes in Cisco routers—a basic building block of the internet.

    While Cisco and other companies scrambled for a fix, security experts pored over the Shadow Brokers tranche like it was the Rosetta Stone. “It was the first time, as threat intelligence professionals, that we’ve had access to what appears to be a relatively complete toolkit of a nation-state attacker,” says Jake Williams, founder of Rendition Infosec. “It was excitement in some circles, dismay in other circles, and panic and a rush to patch if you’re running vulnerable hardware.”

    Virtually nobody, though, believed the Shadow Brokers’ claim that they were mere hackers trying to sell the exploits for a quick fortune. For one thing, the group had released far more material for free than necessary to prove their bona fides. And the mechanics of their bitcoin “auction” were laughable—losing bidders, the group said, would not get their money back.

    The Shadow Brokers would release the whole cache to the public for the arbitrary, Dr. Evil-esque price of 1 million bitcoins, nearly $600 million at the time. They group later broke down the hacking tools into a revised al la carte buy-it-now price list, but the prices weren’t low enough to attract buyers. As of Thursday, the Shadow Brokers had pulled in a total of 10 bitcoins.

    In an email interview with The Daily Beast early this week, the Shadow Brokers expressed frustration that they weren’t getting rich off the code, and hinted that they might be retiring soon. “Many rich hackers. Many rich hacker companies. $100k, $1,000,000, $10,000,000 is pennies to theritepeoples [sic]… TheRitePeoples who not caring about money. TheRitePeoples who just caring about really cool ####. Equation Group really cool ####. Equation Group really cool #### only theshadowbrokers is selling.”

    The group also explained they are not activists, and they gave away the initial tranche of files purely as a marketing move. “NOT for [a] silly cause. Douchebags uses causes for trying to get laid. TheShadowBrokers is getting plenty laid, no need for cause douchbaggery. Leaving that to those straight men who looking, acting like gay men, thinking its called hipsters.”

    The most popular Shadow Brokers theories in computer security and intelligence circles have nothing to do with money or getting laid. In one, the Shadow Brokers is an NSA insider gone rogue; on the other, it’s the Russian government. Last year the FBI investigated and arrested an NSA contractor named Hal Martin, who had allegedly been illegally stockpiling agency secrets in his house. But as Martin cooled his heels in federal custody, the Shadow Brokers continued to post messages and files, and the rogue insider theory withered.

    The more persuasive theory, supported by no less than Edward Snowden, is that the Shadow Brokers are one of the same Russian government hacking groups now accused of targeting the U.S. election. Coincidently, the same day the Shadow Brokers said goodbye, the hacker who claimed responsibility for penetrating the DNC suddenly re-emerged after nearly two months of silence.

    In the spy-versus-spy world of hacks and counterhacks, both the U.S. and Russia sometimes lose their code to the other side. The risk is unavoidable, because NSA malware has little value sitting safely on the agency’s classified network. Just as a spy plane must fly, even at risk of being shot down and reverse-engineered, the NSA’s exploits must be fired at targeted networks to be of use. Its backdoor “implants” must be installed in other people’s servers.

    As the first step in this process, the NSA sets up its tools on special “staging” servers on the internet—machines that are owned, leased, or otherwise controlled by the U.S., but with no connection to the NSA. From there, the individual programs are smuggled to wherever they’re needed.
    The Russians could have traced a U.S. hacking campaign back to one or more of these staging servers, and collected the massive Shadow Brokers cache.

    Under this theory, the Shadow Brokers were part of a ###-for-tat in the intelligence world. The group emerged just as the U.S. began confronting Russia over its election hacking, and then seemed to release its secrets in time with the public thrusts and parries between the two countries. On December 15th, for example, Obama announced to NPR that the U.S. would retaliate for the election hacks—“we need to take action.” On the 16th, the Shadow Brokers broke six weeks of silence to publish a tweetstorm of screenshots showing off its unreleased NSA files.

    The message: Russia would do to the NSA what it was doing to the Democratic Party. It would dump sensitive stolen files to the internet, while hiding behind just enough of a cover-story that it could maintain public deniability.

    Now, with a new, friendlier administration coming in, Vladimir Putin may be pressing the reset button. “The timing is interesting,” says Williams.
    The Shadow Brokers, though, insist they have nothing to do with global affairs.

    “TheShadowBrokers is dumb asses thinking found golden ticket sitting on server and just wanting cash out without dying or go to prison,” the group wrote. “TheShadowBrokers is wanting to win and exit. Starting to looking like epic fail. TheShadowBrokers still proud of very large balls for to taking risk. Is not many peoples can be saying same? Mostly cattle fed just enough by masters.”

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    The @FEC just sent Trump a 250 page letter listing what appear to be illegal campaign contributions. Read it here:
    http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/964/2017...300074964.pdf#

    Azor...would be interesting to see if Russian émigré names are this list of 250 pages...as the Buzzfeed alludes to Russian émigrés in the US funneling election funds to Trump
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    So are Trump and Flynn now getting their instructions from the US Russian Ambassador.....

    Russia Today panel says #Trump must "decapitate" anti-Trump leakers in the intel community, purge the State Department, the #CIA and the #Pentagon.

    Flynn and Trump both have talked about a reorg of CIA so the RT request is not far fetched as it seems....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    The @FEC just sent Trump a 250 page letter listing what appear to be illegal campaign contributions. Read it here:
    http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/964/2017...300074964.pdf#

    Azor...would be interesting to see if Russian migr names are this list of 250 pages...as the Buzzfeed alludes to Russian migrs in the US funneling election funds to Trump
    Reference this Trump tweet.....
    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump Jan 12
    Thank you to Linda Bean of L.L.Bean for your great support and courage. People will support you even more now. Buy L.L.Bean. @LBPerfectMaine

    This tweet would violate White House ethics policy.
    And Bean made an illegal $30k donation to a pro-Trump super PAC.

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    Ever notice that most of Trump's incessant tweeting fits this.....?????

    Populism seeks to divide people into 2 groups: the "real" people & those "against" them. We see this repeatedly

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    MAYBE Trump should have checked with his son...ONE of the sons supposedly taking over his companies and supposedly not a conflict of interest.....
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    Trump's personal and special advisor Bannon is hard at work here in Europe....

    Breitbart: Intelligence Source: Albanian Islamic State Fighters Will Strike Italy
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017...strike-italy/#

    So exactly just how does Breitbart know this when the entire EU intel system does not.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Azor...and there is absolutely no connections between Trump and his staff and Russians.....?????

    Steele got it right.....why is it strange to think otherwise....I once had an excellent HUMINT trainer who had served as a German Army intelligence officer (LT) on the East Front during WW2 (he was part of the Gehlen intelligence group who later formed the German BND) who when I asked him something that sounded strange...his reply...."what do you think"...meaning his view is that the human is capable of a lot of things and if I the huminter felt that it was possible write it up because 9 out of 10 times it will be correct and the one time being wrong is acceptable in the humint business....

    Wow, the Post's David Ignatius on Flynn and the Russians.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini....ae8d7e453fff#

    REMEMBER Flynn is not yet officially a representative of the US government nor is Trump yet ...YET both he and Trump act as if they are now running the government....
    Azor....and there were no Russian Trump team contacts....apparently for awhile....

    The official says the administration is also aware of contacts between Trump adviser Michael Flynn and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak at other times as well.

    Really weak excuse and why was it not stated right after the calls and why was it now revealed after the article....

    Trump team confirms Gen Flynn spoke w/Russian Amb in Dec, to wish him a Merry Christmas & discuss Trump-Putin meeting post-inauguration

    BUT WAIT Trump teame does not have an excuse for the "other times"......
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    This article really needs to be read and then reread especially by Trump himself.....

    Trump Doesn’t Know What He Doesn’t Know About #Foreign #Policy He says right one but always does the wrong one.
    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/08/...reign-policy/#

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    Every time I think we've captured all the Trump-Russian links, a new one pops up–need a Wikipedia like effort on this @Parsifalssister

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    Azor...further proof that in fact elements of the Buzzfeed report were in fact true...NOTICE not being picked up by US MSM...BUT by UK journalists working Russia....

    Might Sechin's very close associate , ex FSB Oleg Erovinkin, found dead "of heart failure" in his car on Dec 26, have been Steele's source?

    Would certainly (but not uniquely) explain Steele's fear for his life & going to ground.

    Erovinkin was x Chief Staff for Sechin, appt by Putin. FSB General. . One of few ppl w access scope (incl Putin) boasted by Steele source

    Initially on Dec 26, several RU publications headlined with "Sechin's chief of staff killed"...later quietly changed headline to "died"

    Last, (now-dead) Erovinkin was Managing Director of Rosneft at time of this alleged deal commitment with Carter Page
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    NBC News: Paint Not Dry on Trump Legal Dispute Over 32K Unpaid Bill
    http://ln.is/www.nbcnews.com/news/sK0g2#
    See how his business methods against small businesses R almost like the mafia!

    Hungarian celeb claims she's approached by #Trump during a #MissUniverse contest in #Moscow, invited her to his room
    http://velvet.hu/gumicukor/2017/01/1...ald_trumpnak/#
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    While we wait for professional journalists to catch up look at how many dots readers have already connected

    Would be great if Palantir would donate a copy of the network analysis tool.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Azor....and there were no Russian Trump team contacts....apparently for awhile....

    The official says the administration is also aware of contacts between Trump adviser Michael Flynn and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak at other times as well.

    Really weak excuse and why was it not stated right after the calls and why was it now revealed after the article....

    Trump team confirms Gen Flynn spoke w/Russian Amb in Dec, to wish him a Merry Christmas & discuss Trump-Putin meeting post-inauguration

    BUT WAIT Trump teame does not have an excuse for the "other times"......
    Trump/Flynn calls behind Obama's back are recorded by Putin/FSB. Their statements/promises are further blackmail. Devastatingly stupid act!!

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    Azor.....reference the Buzzfeed article...this is exactly how HUMINT works
    Here's the overview: nr, date, pages, sources, title—& a quick-and-dirty credibility assessment. Pointers to errors, suggestions appreciated
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    Eg: 2016-100 is noteworthy. Historically we expect an active measure like this to be highly controversial. Kremlin frictions may be accurate

    Note that 2016-100 mentioned a power struggle inside PA between Ivanov and Peskov days before Putin dismisses Ivanov

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    You know that I have difficulty responding to posts spread out over two pages of a thread, especially on a mobile…

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    ever notice that before the Buzzfeed no one heard of Orbis and or Steele accept those in the intel dark side of CI....where their opinion of him is high based on his CI work in Moscow...and Russia in general

    2.Orbis became a small Mercedes Benz among the top tier of the business intel world by virtue of their work quality and Russian sources

    Suddenly now we have tons of experts coming out of the wool stating this and or that about both Orbis and Steele largely to discredit him...and distract from the bulk of the 17 reports...

    ...if he handled as a MI6 case officer this particular cross over Russian high level agent then the MI6 placed him into a different league...only the best in this business handle such high level cross overs...

    BTW...missing completely from those that try to discredit Steels and his past....UK and US types that were assigned to the Soviet Union in those days spoke fluent Russian and had extensive surveillance and counter surveillance training before arriving in Moscow...and it was spy combat from the day they hit the ground running in those days of Moscow...
    You know perfectly well that from 1992 on, NATO’s military and intelligence machine was hollowed out in order to save money and reallocate resources to more pressing issues. Steele arrived in Moscow at the very end of the Cold War. He was late to the party. During the chaos of Russia in the 1990s where everything and everyone was for sale, what good was an SIS officer posing as a FCO diplomat?

    He was certainly useful in the UK handling walk-ins such as Litvinenko, but he was one of a surge of intelligence officers who went into the private sector following the end of the Cold War. Perhaps if he had learned Arabic and Urdu and clung on for a few more years, he would still be with SIS and would be a true spy. According to a Bloomberg article, Steele’s colleagues have a mixed opinion of him and don’t regard Orbis as a “Merc” by any measure.

    I suggest you reread my remarks on Steele from earlier in the thread, which you have not responded to: http://council.smallwarsjournal.com/...&postcount=386



    The UK was home to many dissidents and defectors from Putin’s Russia who never failed to remind the world how Putin was subverting Russia’s nascent democracy and becoming a tyrant. Yet few cared to listen because Russia was no longer regarded as a major threat as it was during the Cold War.

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    …Trump has bee in the cross hairs of CI for going on 30 years...
    Then how did he make it this far? A “vast right-wing conspiracy”? Collusion between the FBI and the Kremlin?

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    Putin was a central figure inside the Dresden Stasi which was extremely active during the ramp up of demonstrations in Dresden prior to the Wall coming down...he was not just some second rate figure..so he had experience already with "color revolts"...
    Given the policies followed by Andropov, Chernenko and especially Gorbachev, Putin’s role would have been more to report on the StaSi using deadly force against the demonstrators than on helping suppress the opposition. East Berlin was Stalinist as far as Moscow was concerned, and Gorby was worried that the regime wouldn't go quietly into the night...

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    Hungarian model tells of how @realDonaldTrump tried to seduce her in 2013 - in Moscow
    A Hungarian “model” claims this? From Europe’s former prostitution capital where women are part-time pornographic actresses for extra cash? Even if it was true, so?

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    Azor...now I am more than convinced the bulk of the materials released are valid....his sources were largely business types and that explains the look and feel that the access of the individuals reporting had and seems they were involved in actual conversations and or near ongoing conversations where they could overhear information...common for HUMINT collection...
    Then you are contradicting the content of the Dossier itself. Supposedly this intelligence operation that began 5-8 years ago and which is so sensitive to be directed personally by Putin and his key aides rather than the usual organizational channels, was revealed to various Russian businessmen, perhaps over 100 as you suggest. Why would Putin confide in them and why would they confide in Steele?

    Unfortunately, this Dossier reads like a salacious story fabricated by someone with knowledge of post-Soviet Russia but who needs to write in order to put steaks in the freezer. Oddly enough, Steele reminds me of Manafort, except with a bit more dignity...

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