Reply With QuoteAppears attacker travelled by train to Holland and then by bus to Lyon.....
2 days after Berlin attack,Anis Amri took bus from Nijmegen,Netherlands,to Lyon-Part-Dieu Stationhttp://www.france24.com/en/20161228-...rlands-france#
German security services still has not verified if the individual arrested had anything to do with the actual attack and or is a person of interest from having direct to the attacker....there is great emphasis on finding out his exact route taken to Milan....there is a main rail stop a ten minute walk from the attack site and if he was spotted in the area eight hours later he could have been walking on to that rail station to catch a train.....not sure that particular rail station had CCTV installed or not...
BERLIN (AP) — German prosecutors said Wednesday that they have detained a Tunisian man they think may have been involved in last week's truck attack on a Christmas market in Berlin.
The 40-year-old, who wasn't identified, was detained during a search of his home and business, federal prosecutors said.
The man's telephone number was saved in the cellphone of Anis Amri, a fellow Tunisian believed to have driven a truck into the market on Dec. 19. Amri, 24, was killed in a shootout with police in a suburb of Milan early Friday.
Of the new suspect, prosecutors said in a statement that "further investigations indicate that he may have been involved in the attack."
Twelve people died in the truck attack. The Islamic State group has claimed responsibility.
Prosecutors have until Thursday evening to determine whether the case against the 40-year-old is strong enough for them to seek a formal arrest warrant. That would allow them to keep him in custody pending possible charges.
Investigators are trying to determine whether Amri had a support network in planning and carrying out the attack, and in fleeing Berlin. They're also trying to piece together the route he took from Berlin to Milan.
Italian police have said Amri traveled through France, and French authorities said on Tuesday that he made a stop in the eastern French city of Lyon.
On Wednesday, Dutch authorities said they are checking whether he fled through the Netherlands, Germany's western neighbor.
"There are indications that he did travel via the Netherlands" on his way to Lyon, Wim de Bruin, a spokesman for the Dutch national prosecutor's office, said.
De Bruin refused to provide further details on how and from where Amri might have traveled in the Netherlands.
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Appears attacker travelled by train to Holland and then by bus to Lyon.....
2 days after Berlin attack,Anis Amri took bus from Nijmegen,Netherlands,to Lyon-Part-Dieu Stationhttp://www.france24.com/en/20161228-...rlands-france#
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55,000 migrants left Germany voluntarily this year - more than twice the number deported
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe...lflow_twitter#
Germany...voluntarily gives each freely returning refugee 3000 Euros as a start help when they return home...
These returnees were virtually all from the Balkans and who would have never received German asylum........
Germany is prosecuting a first #FakeNews case. The guy is looking at 3 years in prison. EXCELLENT! Although 10 years would be better.
I noticed this about two years ago - and was really surprised at how many. Particularly considering the country from where they de-facto fled is supposed to be one of 'milk and honey'...Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
Sure. But, this issue is not going to be solved any time soon.Resolution of the Israeli Palestinian issue will greatly ease tensions across the entire ME....a simple fact....
German federal investigators are saying that the attacker sent a selfie of himself and an attack message to the 40 year old Tunisian businessman they had arrested the day before and indicate he is probably tied to the attack thus the arrest..as his cell number was on the attackers phone and it was his last call...still no explanation of why the attacker went back to the attack site eight hours after the attack and having known his ID had been found in the truck thus knowing the Germans were looking for him....
Still appears to be no solid connections though to IS......
Travel route to Milan now appears to have been fully exploited and understood...still no apparent meeting of anyone along that escape route...at least none seen on CCTV videos...
German security agencies vetted the attacker a number of times in 2016 as being a serious danger....but were overridden by the main terrorist threat analysis center....
German anti-terror experts ranked Berlin truck attack suspect Anis Amri as 'a low threat'
http://read.bi/2hQ6r6I
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The arrested 40 year old Tunisia businessman was released by Federal Police due to the lack of evidence tying him to the attack and are attacker......
The pistol used on the killing of the Polish truck driver and wounding the Italian police officer in Milan was from a .22 caliber ..no word on whether the slugs came from the same gun....
.22 caliber pistol is strange as that is usually used as an assassination caliber and the black market tends to not carry them as all want a larger caliber...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...mepage%2Fstory
By Andrew Roth
An obscure E.U. regulation may have saved lives in the Berlin Christmas market attack
The truck that killed 12 people after plowing into the market may have been stopped by an advanced braking system mandated by the European Union.
Is installed as part of the over GPS sensor system mandatory on all EU trucks travelling inside EU....
The#truck attack#on a Christmas market in Berlin last week may have been cut short when the truck automatically deployed its#brakes, the result of European Union regulations that require automatic braking systems on large trucks.
The new detail, revealed jointly by Germany’s#Süddeutsche Zeitung newspaper and broadcasters NDR and WDR on Tuesday, may explain why the truck came to a stop after#a few hundred feet. In the end, twelve people were killed in the attack, but there are indications that the E.U.-mandated advanced emergency braking system may have prevented#more deaths.
It was previously thought that#Lukasz Urban, the Polish truck driver whose vehicle had been hijacked, may have fought with the attacker in the moments before the rampage. Urban had multiple stab wounds and had been shot, and investigators suggested that the truck’s erratic path indicated#a struggle in the cabin.
In response, a British truck driver launched a crowdfunding campaign to raise money for Urban’s family, gathering more than $210,000.#There were also calls for the Polish driver to receive a Federal Cross of Merit, an honor given out by the German government. But the German newspaper Bild later reported that a forensic examination showed that Urban had in fact been shot in the head between 4:30 and 5:30 p.m., several hours before the attack began. Though Urban may have still been alive as the attack took place, doctors believed it was unlikely he would have been conscious.
Instead, the 40-ton Scania PRT truck may have driven erratically and ultimately stopped because the brakes#were#deployed.
E.U. regulations adopted in 2012 require that all newly manufactured trucks heavier than 3,500 kilograms (3.9 tons) be fitted with an advanced emergency braking system. The systems use radar and cameras to detect obstacles and warn the driver. In the event of a crash, the brakes may stop the vehicle entirely.
Although the driver can override the brakes, an inexperienced user may not know how.
According to Süddeutsche Zeitung, there was high praise for the regulation in Berlin government circles, who said it had “saved lives” and noted that a similar attack involving an older truck in Nice, France, had killed 86 and injured hundreds.
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Wake up Berlin
A German SME has a direct critique on CT after Berlin (in fact with wider implications). For example:Link:http://europe.newsweek.com/germany-p...n-535157?rm=euPolicymakers and bureaucrats have consistently denied what is obvious for any attentive observer, namely that German security architecture is hardly able to cope with the increasing threat. The official complacency stands in marked contrast to the warnings of police and intelligence officials in the field. In private, many of them have argued for years that German policymakers should wake up and decide to give them the legal, financial, and technical resources they need to fight Islamist terrorists effectively.
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Agree that after the Wall came down Germany in general withdrew on the military and security side as did much of Europe with UK leading the way...in the last three years major investments in equipment and manning have been restarted and are well underway.
BUT what is not being often repeated by so called SMEs....there are 550 known dangerous Salafists and the German version of MI5 knows very well who their bad apples are as does their version of MI6 and has a very good oversight of the Salafist movements inside Germany....and opposite the rest of Europe Germany has outlawed a number of the Salafist mosques...
The problem is in order to fully surveil all 550 24 X 7 you would need 15,000 additional trained and experienced surveillance officers...thus the current ongoing internal debate on how to watch those 550...down to electronic ankle monitors which is done nowhere else in the EU....
When compared to the actual threat and the low number of actual accomplished attacks Germany is doing actually quite well...considering 1.2M more refugees....THE US has had far more deadlier attacks than in Germany and has far fewer refugees....
We urgently need to wait out the current ongoing investigation....this attack simply does not make sense....and unless the German federal agencies come up with more people connected to the attacker I still go back to my original thought...this was a false flag attack....
The key is the .22 caliber pistol...the lack of a clear tie-in into IS.....as the attacker actually appears to have been on the run back of all places to Tunisia not Iraq and or Syria....totally atypical....he was retracing his smuggle steps back to Tunisia and that alone is strange....and the current lack of any tie-in to German Salafist mosques and or individuals is totally out of place...all the Brussels and Paris attackers had some form of tie-in.....
Russian Senator Pushkov Calls on Germany to 'React' to March in Memory of Bandera in Kievhttp://www.interpretermag.com/day-1050/#15852
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Place your bets now, people.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ice/ar-AAo4QMADUSSELDORF, Germany — Several attackers wielding axes injured around five people at the main train station in the west German city of Duesseldorf late Thursday, local police told AFP.
Two suspects were arrested, said police, who warned that others may have fled the scene.
A scrimmage in a Border Station
A canter down some dark defile
Two thousand pounds of education
Drops to a ten-rupee jezail
http://i.imgur.com/IPT1uLH.jpg
Yet again a mentally ill man with an axe plus CCTV
From the BBC:Link:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39225847?Seven people have been injured in an axe attack at the main railway station in the western German city of Duesseldorf, police say.The attack happened at about 21:00 local time (20:00 GMT) on Thursday.
One man has been arrested. The 36-year-old suspect from the former Yugoslavia suffers from psychological problems, Duesseldorf police said.
They said the assailant "attacked people at random". No fatalities have been reported.
As is the pattern early reports referred to several suspects and a large-scale search was needed. The suspect was arrested having thrown himself in a river.
I note the BBC also reported today that:Link:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39231046?Public video surveillance appears set to become more commonplace in Germany after the lower house of parliament approved a package of new measures.
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Germans as a hold are reluctant to install widespread CCTV due to massive privacy issues...which are actually far more stringent than what one sees in the US....
But after a series of successful police arrests in non terror related crime incidents many are now more accepting of CCTV in critical areas...train stations...public transportation and buses...airports.......
All legislature is coupled though with the statement on exactly how long the data can be held and then how it is destroyed and that it cannot lead to mass storage of data in a central repository as is much of the data in the US is held...
WHAT is interesting is just how the German police are now using social media especially twitter...they get on it immediately and control the narrative and tell the audience how and where to go ......
This is the second attack by a true crazy and after the first incident when "terrorist attack" was making the rounds on twitter....the local police in English stated....
"WTF...this is not a terrorist attack so stop this!!
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Russian info war against Germany and Europe is heating up...
Lisa 2.0: how the pro-Kremlin media have been justifying last year's false story with a new one. @DFRLab
https://medium.com/@DFRLab/lisa-2-0-...c7#.c5vmc7a1m#
Moderator adds: There is a separate thread on Operation Liza:http://council.smallwarsjournal.com/...ad.php?t=23567
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Things are now escalating between EU/NATO and Turkey over the coming Erdogan instituted referendum on his new Presidential system which is a single leader dictatorship and no freedom of the press....with over 127 journalists currently in jail including a just arrested German/Turkish reporter for Die Welt....
In the last ten days this has escalated badly with Germany bluntly telling Turkey they cannot send their AKP and government officials to Germany to conduct political rallies on German soil....
This has led to a series of Turkish government statements of accusing Germany of being Nazi's and Hitler again...including Erdogan....this is inflammatory in nature and it is deliberate on the part of Erdogan as it makes he look as a hard leader to the 1.5M Turks residing in Germany.....
Merkel and her FM have bluntly told Turkey to stop the inflammatory Nazi statements...warning that it can in fact make moves against Turkey that will not benefit Turkey.....
Today a leading German politician who sits in the EU Commission openly questioned by the EU is providing Turkey with 4B Euros in aid to assist in merging into EU WHEN Erdogan does not want to and is going the opposite direction with creating an Islamic State and a single ruler and no democratic processes....BUT then his FM "demanded visa free travel to EU countries"...we were promised it...he "forgot it was to be part of the merging process and not a separate reward to Turkey...WHAT is interesting is that Turkey had actually fulfilled 24 of the 28 steps needed to merge into EU and was actually doing very well and then Erdogan simply applied the brakes and went the other direction....WHEN he suddenly was confronted with massive charges of corruption by the free Turkish press backed up with audio tapes of his corruption and the corruption of his sin...
Turkey depends economically right now on EU trade and support and yes Erdogan could jump to Russia but Russia cannot carry the financial burden of 6-9B Euros of aid and trade per year...as does EU....
THIS escalated even more this weekend when the Turkish FM wanted to go to Holland conduct political rallies for the Turkish referendum there....
WHEN it appeared he might be blocked he then threatened Holland with unnamed sanctions....
THEN the Dutch did in fact block him in travelling to Holland...they said basically you can come for official reasons and talks not no political rallies on Dutch soil...
Fighting fire with fire, still makes you a pyromaniac.
This is getting out of control!
Dutch withdraw Turkish minister's travel permission in rally dispute- CNN Turk
http://reut.rs/2mwxY1C
Last edited by davidbfpo; 03-11-2017 at 12:04 PM. Reason: Copied to the Turkey thread.
AND here we go....it's the Nazi's striking again.....
The Dutch are 'Nazi remnants' and "fascists"says Turkish President @RT_Erdogan.
Erdogan calling the kettle black as he is sliding Turkey into fascism of a single authoritarian leader.
BreakingNews
Turkish president #Erdogan threatens to cancel Landing Permission for #Dutch planes in #Turkey.
REMEMBER recently when Germany critiqued him in his political rallies he held recently he would not allow even the German Minister of Defense visit her AF elements flying recce against Is from Turkey....
AND THEN this...
This is what #Turkey FM said before he was denied landing permission by the Dutch
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...mp?CMP=twt_gu#
Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 03-11-2017 at 12:31 PM. Reason: Copied to the Turkey thread.
German shopping mall shut on police fears of an attack
http://reut.rs/2mbV8Xz
Police stated...had concrete attack threat report from security services
Wilders sees connection between decision to block Turkish FM from landing in NL and the Dutch general elections.
Typical Wilders the ultra rightist populist who was to win and now is losing badly since Trump was elected would say this....as it hurts him....
BUT he has missed the key point...many EU leaders are simply now fed up with Erdogan and are following Merkel's pushback....over the same style of Nazi statements....
NOW the Erdogan threat against Holland on their election day.....and who states the term Nazi.....
LIVE President Erdoğan on Netherlands decision for no landing permission for FM: Our people will disrupt your conspiracy on 16th April
He voiced something similar this week in his clash with Germany...for their election in SEPT....
BUT WAIT..Erdogan does not even know his own Turkish laws he has yet to change so still in effect.....
A reminder of this timely piece by @dpa_intl from last week: #Turkish election law prohibits campaigning abroad
http://dpaq.de/x5YZj
Leave it up to Germans to point out Turkish law to Erdogan....
AND yet he seems to believe he can force EU to do anything he wants to do....like visa free travel and massive Euro loans....
ANADOLU AGENCY (ENG)
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@anadoluagency
Turkey summons Dutch envoy to Foreign Ministry after FM's flight permit gets canceled
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