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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    From Der Spiegel: http://www.spiegel.de/international/...a-1153592.html

    But I thought that spying "among friends, that isn't done"? Well, what of it, Angie?

    Yet Der Spiegel has clearly violated sections 90A, 164, 185, 186 and 187 of the StGB with this article, by clearly engaging in:

    • Insult
    • Malicious gossip
    • Defamation
    • Disparagement of the state
    • Incitement of popular hatred


    Perhaps Angie can censor Der Spiegel and get her friends at Google, Facebook and Twitter to help out?

    Introduction:
    Interesting comment in that it does not reflect that all NATO member ICs which includes the USG ICs all 17 of them....ALL "spy" on each other.....

    This type of "spying" while not intended to actively recruit employees of those governments is considered to be normal...why it is designed to fill the gap on exactly what their decision makers are up to so the the "spying" country can adjust accordingly their FP or if they are in a FP decision cycle.....

    BUT watch US reactions when say Mossad actively recruits a US Jewish citizen to reveal highly classified materials ie Pollack....

    BUT if one knows the Cold War days the BND was never really trusted by US and UK and other NATO partners due to the closeness of the GDR, the Stasi and KGB....not because the Germans provided "bad" information when intel sharing.....

    BTW..right now Germany is one of the leading intel services providing extensive HUMINT and SIGINT to the USG ICs on Trump and company.

    WHEN using the German law paras be sure to mention that until a State prosecutor states and files an actual court case using one of those paras...it is only words, more words and more confusion....

    BTW...notice that while you highlight this article the Steel Dossier on Trump which was raw HUMINT reporting never seems to get to the level of solid low level spying thus has creditability as 80% was verified....and is disregarded by many for that exact reason...low level raw HUMINT...
    Last edited by davidbfpo; 06-25-2017 at 12:39 PM. Reason: Moved from the Malware thread, sits here far better.

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