US President Donald Trump is to argue that the future of Western civilisation is at stake in a keynote speech in the Polish capital Warsaw.
Holding up Poland as an example of a country ready to defend civilisation, he will warn against the threats of "terrorism and extremism".
Poland's conservative government shares Mr Trump's hostile view of immigration and strong sense of sovereignty.
Mr Trump is in Poland ahead of a G20 summit in Hamburg, Germany.
"Because as the Polish experience reminds us - the defence of the West ultimately rests not only on means but also on the will of its people to prevail," Mr Trump will say, according to excerpts released from the speech.
"The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive."
The "fundmental question" that Trump has yet to answer...in his drive to appease and accommodate Putin......"does he fully and completely understand the inherent Russian infowar and cyber war threat directed at and which still continues against the US"??
THAT he Trump has yet to accept nor release his US cyber defense plan he promised within 90 days.....
That is the "fundamental question"....AND Trump will continue to not answer that "question"....
ACTIONS speak louder than words and right now Trump is all words.....in his response to the inherent Russian threat against the US which he must defend as part of his oath he must fulfil as President...
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BUT WAIT...in this important Polish Us press conference Trump true to form does this.....
Trump starts attacking NBC & CNN in news conference in Warsaw
BUT NOTICE this.....
US Pres Donald Trump says in press conference in Warsaw:
"We are working with Poland against Russia's actions and destabilising behaviour"
Trump says absolutely nothing about Russian behaviour in the US elections as a destabilising behaviour does he?????
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AND Trump still does not really admit to the same conclusions as do 17 USG ICs...that Russia both hacked and meddled in the 2016 US elections...
Before Putin talks, Trump plays down interference in U.S. election
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us..._medium=Social
One day before his first meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, U.S. President Donald Trump said on Thursday that no one knows for sure whether Moscow intervened in the 2016 U.S. election but that he suspected Russian involvement.
Speaking to reporters in Poland, Trump played down the assessment of his own intelligence agencies that Russia meddled in the election by hacking Democrats' emails and distributing online propaganda.
“I think it was Russia, but I think it was probably other people and/or countries, and I see nothing wrong with that statement. Nobody really knows. Nobody really knows for sure,” Trump told a news conference.
As I have posted here a number of times....Russian use of "money" as a soft power feature in their non linear war against the US and West in general is something that has picked up the pace since 2008 and continues until this very day.....
Felix Sater agrees to co-operate in money-laundering probe
Russia-born dealmaker linked to Trump
Sater was a Russian OC member in New York before going to work for Trump in the Soho Trump Tower....then shifted to working for the FBI as an informant during this period.
https://www.ft.com/content/159eb2d8-...4-0ac7eb84e5f1
.Donald Trump faces renewed scrutiny of the riches that flowed into his real estate empire from the former Soviet Union after a fixer for a Kazakh family accused of pumping dirty money into US property agreed to assist an international investigation into his former business partners.Felix Sater, a Russian-born dealmaker with organised-crime connections who worked on property ventures including Trump Soho in Manhattan, has attracted attention in recent months as efforts continue to chart the links between the US president’s circle and moneymen from Russia and its neighbours.In October the Financial Times revealed Mr Sater had helped the family of Viktor Khrapunov, a former Kazakh minister now exiled in Switzerland, invest millions in US real estate through front companies. The Khrapunovs have spent heavily across the US, including, records indicate, buying apartments in Trump Soho
From the article....Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
Trump is going to speak at a public rally near the 1944 Warsaw Uprising monument. Right-wing groups are organising buses to transport people from all over Poland in order to provide a big crowd for the event. Apparently it is the first US President in many years whose visit to Poland does not include a tribute to the 1943 Warsaw Ghetto Uprising memorial that is a short walking distance from the other monument at a time when antisemitism has been reportedly on the rise in both USA and PolandChodakiewicz himself appeared in the report and commented on the speech’s contents. It has also been reported Chodakiewicz is to be a member of the presidential delegation flying to Warsaw.
The report raised eyebrows because of Chodakiewicz’s long record of far right links. He is mostly known as a denier of Polish responsibility for acts of antisemitism, including the infamous Jedwabne pogrom of 1941.
He has repeatedly claimed Jews themselves were chiefly responsible for the hostility of their Polish neighbours. Accusations of Jewish involvement with Communism have been present in many of Chodakiewicz’s writings.
A frequent contributor to Polish right-wing media, he has recently referred to Bernie Sanders as “a Jewish bolshevik”.
Hacker Who Aided #Russian Intelligence Sentenced to 2 Years
https://nyti.ms/2tQhjKz
Like other cybercriminals-turned-government hackers, Shaltai Boltai’s members are believed to have collaborated with Russian intelligence personnel, namely, those from the Federal Security Service.
That led to the arrest of Sergei Mikhailov, the deputy director of the service’s cybersecurity organ, and one of several individuals arrested around the same time as the members of Shaltai Boltai and charged with treason, though the authorities never publicly linked the two cases.
Mr. Mikhailov’s possible ties to Shaltai Boltai emerged in Russian news reports. Other Russian news outlets reported a competing theory for the intelligence officer’s arrest: that he had passed to the F.B.I. secrets about Russia’s government-backed hacking programs, helping in the investigation of Russian meddling in the presidential election.
12/31/16: Trump promises info on the real election hackers in a week.
7/6/17: Today in Poland in a press conference claims he has no idea whodunnit.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-p...e-still-hasnt#
AND that promised 90 day US cyber defense plan...no where to be seen is it??
AND the 17 USG ICs stated exactly what about Russian interference....AND Trump simply does not believe them...why is that??
The famous Trump whodunnit...so US intelligence was wrong in 2002 and 2003 SO it is wrong in 2016.....typical Russian "whataboutism".......
Following the mantra......
"Anyone could've hacked the US election and Obama is to blame for not stopping the Russians from doing it"
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Reference Americans actively working to push Russian propaganda into the US, France and Germany.....under the guise of proTrump social media accounts....
Investigators looking into possible Russia collusion with pro-Trump websites: report
http://hill.cm/C3TRlG7
Reference Brad Parscale...have previously posted a number of comments referencing his digital activities......using big data from SCL and Cambridge Analytica....Investigators are reportedly looking into whether there was coordination#between Russia and pro-Trump websites during the 2016 presidential election.
The Guardian reported#investigators are trying to find out if#there was any coordination between Moscow#and pro-Trump or#far-right websites regarding the publication#of fake news.
That includes stories targeting#2016 Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.
A report last month said Brad Parscale, the#digital director of President Trump's 2016 campaign, was expected to be invited to speak with the House Intelligence Committee.
Parscale oversaw online advertising and voter targeting for Trump's campaign.
Last edited by davidbfpo; 07-06-2017 at 09:56 PM.
Felix has decided his FBI pals can protect him from his ROC/FSB pals. That's one high-stakes wager right there.
Sater has played a lot of different sides since 1998...Russian crime boss, FBI and CIA informant and it now seems FBI informant again....
Does anyone here at SWJ see a repeat of the Trump Russian FM meeting.....
Tillerson is working hard to get the sanctions lifted for a Exxon 500B USD oil deal and there is not a single NSC and or Hill a Russian expert in the room....
And this is really going to work out well for the US.....
The only extra people reportedly inside the Trump-Putin meeting will be Tillerson, Lavrov, and translators.
https://www.axios.com/coming-attract...54467032.html#
So outside of Trump himself and Tillerson who has been failing as SoS who will actually know what Trump says and or agrees to???
Normally the NSA and or a Russian expert has always been in such meetings in the past and now????
From a former US Ambassador to Russia.....under Obama
Michael McFaul
✔
@McFaul
Putin likes small meetings. If true, WH obviously letting Kremlin dictate the terms of the meeting. Not good. At minimum, HR must be there.
WHAT does Putin truly have over Trump???
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Trump supporter admits vandalizing an elementary school with anti-Trump graffiti hoping to frame liberals
http://hill.cm/9kF3GHd
Last edited by davidbfpo; 07-09-2017 at 12:22 PM. Reason: brevity
Total government experience in the room?
Russia: 80+ years
US: Less than 12 months
1 KGB veteran case officer with field experience in recruitment, 1 veteran diplomat, 1 Order of Friendship recipient given by the KGB guy and just another guy.
Embassy CIA station chief all out of Kaopectate.
AND at the same time this is ongoing.......
Rex Tillerson is in the NY attorney general's crosshairs as the Exxon investigation heats up
http://read.bi/2tmoVny
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Let us see exactly what is currently known about Russian influence and hacking operations within the US currently and during the 2016 election and the European elections of Netherlands, France and now coming in Germany....
In order to look intensively at the thread one would in theory thoroughly need to understand the Russian non linear warfare doctrine released by the Russians shortly after their military annexation of Crimea...with the two key cornerstones...
1. cyber warfare
2. information warfare and a new one
3. softpower through the use on money...lots of money
But postings on this have been deleted....so I am assuming all fully understand non linear warfare....
1. there is an ongoing active social media war afoot in the US driven by an alliance between the ultra right in Russia and Russian trolls and bots supporting a similar ultra right and right wing US social media botnets and blogsites..it has now reached the level of actual death threats against accounts known to be releasing accurate reporting on the Trump collusion and against anyone supporting them as well as mobbing and stalking...
2. they share the same conspiracy theories and fake news and they push all Wikileaks hacked emails of western leaders and or Clinton
3. the FBI is now expanding their Russian connections to Trump into this area was well especially between alt right ie white nationalist blogsites such as Infowars and Breitbart.com
4. Fox News has taken on the leading voice for this movement much in the same way Russia Today does for the Russian government....
5. an approved Congressional 200M USDs to be used in fighting back against this info war has been largely not used by the Trump WH nor has it queried Congress on how to use that money
6. we have seen a tight group of 30 proTrump alt right social media accounts push a massive disinformation attack against CNN built around FAKE information in order to discredit CNN and silence a MSM outlet
7. we have seen the complete personal voting records and other personal data on 200M US voters complied by a GOP contractor SCL placed onto an unsecured Amazon cloud server which after 21 days was "stolen"..by whom is not known....AND yet the Trump WH says not a single word about this massive data theft of US voter information
8. the Trump created "Fraud voting commission2 has basically requested the same exact information and that information will not be secured by US government facilities and internet security ..rather it will be stored somewhere in the WH and is to be used by WH...
9. we have seen Russian APT 28 a state sponsored hacking group hack the email accounts of the now French President and then released them in the same fashion as with the Clinton and Podesta emails
10. we have seen and confirmed an ongoing Russian disinformation and influence operation ongoing in Germany due to the coming election
11. we have seen a deliberate cyber war unleashed as a practice session on the entire Ukraine economy and it bled over to other major businesses resulting in economic losses exceeding 1B USDs
12. we now see in a Trump interview he still does not accept the proven fact that Russia both hacked and meddled and meddled is a mild word in the 2016 election
13. we know that a total of 21 State voting databases were in fact hacked and in six cases voter data was exfiled out of those data bases
14. we now that two "big data" companies SCL and Cambridge Analytica used an "voting social engineering concept" to drive a digital media messaging directly into the US against potential Trump voters and in an attempt to suppress Democratic voting.....ARE now under FBI investigation for exactly this "social engineering"....
15. we know that these tow companies where initially owned by Bannon current special advisor to Trump who sold them shortly before the election and who still sits on their boards...
16. we know that now the FBI Russian Trump investigation has expanded from initially 15 field agents to now a rumoured 170
17. we know the number of top flight success proven Federal prosecutors has now climbed to 16 working with SC Mueller in the areas of organized crime, money laundering, Russian collusion and obstruction/cover up
18. so 170 plus 15 does not seem to indicate as Trump constantly states.....everything is a "FAKE"......
19. we now see a very active attempt to shut down the 1st Amendment of free speech and free press with open and massive attacks on virtually the entire MSM AND an attempt to shut down all live cameras in the daily WH press conferences
19. we see an active and open Trump and Trump supporter attacks on US Federal judiciary decision and judges
20. Trump has to yet released his much promised US cyber defense plan and probably never will as he rejects the idea that Russia hacked the US
So to argue that we can simply move on and ignore it is like walking into a dark tunnel with no light facing an oncoming freight train with no lights and saying to ourselves everything is going to be fine....
Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 07-07-2017 at 06:57 AM.
NOW this is what is interesting and ties right back into this thread....
If one has been tracking the increase in Trump twitter "Followers" you might have noticed that it has climbed 1.4M in less than 3.5 weeks...
Research conducted on samples of those 1.4M "Followers" is indicating they are all automated and foreign controlled "bots".......not human "Followers".Secondly, we have shut down yesterday a 120,000 automated botnet controlled by Russian control servers which were tied into pushing automated hashtags being also used by the proTrump alt right ie white nationalists twitter accounts which I had posted here but were deleted as well.....WE have solid evidence connecting this shut down Russian botnet tied to specific US proTrump alt right ie white nationalist twitter accounts.
German security contacts are indicating that there is an extremely close tie in between Russian controlled bot nets and US ultra right and alt right social media accounts...and they are taking this into account in the coming German election as they have seen a marked increase in tweets from this group aiming into German twitter conversations from right and ultra right German groups similar to what occurred in the French election when US peoTrump accounts supported Le Pen and her Front National.
BTW we were also able to identify a very sophisticated automated use of these bots and their automated responses to Ukrainian social media accounts...meaning they were keying automatic responses to key twitter words being used by Ukrainian accounts...response language used was Russian...meaning if the twitter account was using English key words the automated bots would respond in Russian....the Russian controlled bot net was making this their first trial run of this feature...
This was the first recorded use of automatic twitter responses against other twitter accounts controlled from Russia.....WITH this automated feature one can literally spam any twitter account of your choice into submission forcing them to withdraw from twitter due to this heavy and continued interesting form of twitter spamming....
We are watching to see if they take the next step...automated responding to English language tweets in English...
So again there is no tie in between internal US activities around US proTrump social media accounts and Russian propaganda and disinformation AND the same US proTrump alt right accounts being seen "meddling" in EU elections..... ??
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I am getting tired of reposting this critical article done by one of the best Russian researchers....
Crimintern: How the Kremlin uses Russia’s criminal networks in Europe
By Mark Galeotti
18th April, 2017
http://www.ecfr.eu/publications/summ...orks_in_europe
In five recent US MSM articles there is finally the growing realization that Russia actively uses Russian overseas criminal gangs as hacking cut outs giving the Russian government a high degree of denialability when accused of being actively involved in hacking operations such as the election of 2016.
Currently under FBI arrest warrants in Prague and Barcelona are two of the top most Russian hackers that while charged under hacking and money laundering are being actively viewed as having been behind the DNC and Podesta hacks....both in paying for them and for running them....
The Russian hacker detained currently in Barcelona is being charged for running a major spam botnet behind the US influence operations.....
The Russian arrested under FBI warrant in Barcelona hacker was behind the Kelihos botnet alleged to have actually been the transfer system for the hacked DNC and Podesta email accounts...
FBI immediately took the entire botnet off line....
How the FBI Took Down Russia's Spam King—And His Massive Botnet
So to argue that Russia criminal gangs are not tied into Russian propaganda, disinformation and especially state sponsored Russia hacking is in fact rather strange...One of the world’s most notorious spammers appears to have been tripped up by a basic cybersecurity no-no, according to the FBI: He used the same log-in credentials to both run his criminal enterprise and also log into sites like iTunes.
The Justice Department announced Monday that it had successfully targeted a man prosecutors called “one of the world’s most notorious criminal spammers,” a Russian hacker known as Peter Yuryevich Levashov, also known as Peter Severa, or “Peter of the North.” Levashov had long run the Kelihos botnet, a global network of infected computers that collectively flooded email inboxes worldwide with spam, stole banking credentials from infected users, and spread malware across the internet.
Spanish authorities arrested Levashov, who normally resides in St. Petersburg, Russia, while he was on vacation with his family. Rumors had swirled over the weekend, sourced only to a vague report on the Russian propaganda network RT, that he’d been involved in that country’s meddling with the 2016 US presidential election, but there was no hint of that in Monday’s Justice Department complaint, which focused instead on Levashov’s role in developing and running one of the internet’s most pernicious and longest-running botnets. Levashov's operation had infected as many as 100,000 computers worldwide, roughly five to ten percent of which were inside the United States.
It is again like standing in that dark tunnel waiting the train to hit you arguing all the while everything is going to be fine...it is not .....
For those that truly do not believe it....there is a true Russian cyber war....we have long ago left the realm of cyber attacks...ongoing in Europe and US and it came out of hiding shortly in the recent Ukraine cyber invasion as a warning to the West from Russia with love......
REMEMBER Putin's own words during his recent national press conference...quote "the US election attack could have been carried out by Russians who were dissatisfied by the way the West is treating Russia" end of quote.....
State sponsored angry Russians and or non state sponsored angry Russians...an interesting question....
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Actually an unusual article for Wired.....
Why Trump says things like "the failing New York Times" and "believe me" over and over and over and over again
http://wrd.cm/2tr5F6K
In the old style days of foreign language training there is a theory that if you repeat a word seven times it is firmly locked into your brain and thus makes it easier to speak a foreign language....
In the concept of psychological warfare this is exactly what Trump and the proTrump alt right ie white nationalist social media is doing hourly 24 X 7 X 365.
THIS is also the concept behind Russian trolling and the use of bots carrying say a "fake news" narrative....by watching a single Russian troll tweet one will see how it is propagated....by the Twitter method known as "retweeting" ...to the point that at some point even MSM picks it up and then when they publish it ..it really does look like the "truth".....
The list of 20 top proTrump accounts that I previously posted and was deleted has been shown to when using a single tweet and their "retweeters" they are capable of driving a hashtag to the top twitter trending within one hour of it's release...
They fully understand how to play the Twitter algorithms....
I had posted yesterday an article indicating that before Trump gave his speech in Poland he had contacted a well known ultra right Polish American historian for his input...who also had deep contacts to other eastern European ultra rightists and who had a history of anti Semitic statements as well.
This article was deleted as being on a soap box...
But from a well known MSM outlet this was published....
https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/532866/
The Racial and Religious Paranoia of Trump's Warsaw Speech
When the president says being Western is the essence of America’s identity, he’s in part defining America in opposition to some of its own people.
BLUF.....In his speech in Poland on Thursday, Donald Trump referred 10 times to “the West” and five times to “our civilization.” His white nationalist supporters will understand exactly what he means. It’s important that other Americans do, too.
The West is not a geographic term. Poland is further east than Morocco. France is further east than Haiti. Australia is further east than Egypt. Yet Poland, France, and Australia are all considered part of “The West.” Morocco, Haiti, and Egypt are not.
The West is not an ideological or economic term either. India is the world’s largest democracy. Japan is among its most economically advanced nations. No one considers them part of the West.
The West is a racial and religious term. To be considered Western, a country must be largely Christian (preferably Protestant or Catholic) and largely white. Where there is ambiguity about a country’s “Westernness,” it’s because there is ambiguity about, or tension between, these two characteristics. Is Latin America Western? Maybe. Most of its people are Christian, but by U.S. standards, they’re not clearly white. Are Albania and Bosnia Western? Maybe. By American standards, their people are white. But they are also mostly Muslim. #
Steve Bannon, who along with Stephen Miller has shaped much of Trump’s civilizational thinking, has been explicit about this. In a 2014 speech, he celebrated “the long history of the Judeo-Christian West struggle against Islam” and “our forefathers” who “bequeathed to use the great institution that is the church of the West.”
The proTrump alt right ie white nationalists on social media immediately ran with their comments praising Trump's speech as they fully understood what he was saying....it is what is between the lines that is important or what some call "meta-messaging".....
So is there any difference between Russian disinformation, propaganda and fake news beig pushed by trolls and bots and the proTrump alt right social media trolls and bots.....
None......there is no difference in tactics and uses of disinformation, fake news and propaganda....
Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 07-07-2017 at 08:59 AM.
What the heck does this Trump tweet mean today..........????
Donald J. Trump
Verified account
#@realDonaldTrump 5h
Everyone here is talking about why John Podesta refused to give the DNC server to the FBI and the CIA. Disgraceful!
TOTALLY a massive Trump lie.....no sure just who he is talking to outside maybe himself....
THERE has never been a single German, French, Dutch, Japanese, Italian, UK newspaper articles concerning what Trump is stating here..."Everyone here is talking about Podesta DNC server".......
Am betting is one asked any person on the streets of the above countries their response would simply be ..."Podesta who and what server"......
Trump is now firmly in an "altered state of reality".......
BLUF...in his latest tweet it appears that Trump is realizing he will walk away from G20 with no trade deal and or anything in the way of supporting Trump's view on climate change .......
Especially with the announcement that EU and Japan have created a free trade zone larger than NAFTA and has effectively cut US agricultural exports out of Japan....
Donald J. Trump
Verified account
#@realDonaldTrump
I will represent our country well and fight for its interests! Fake News Media will never cover me accurately but who cares! We will #MAGA!
Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 07-07-2017 at 12:46 PM.
Had not a lot of posts concerning this individual been deleted one could then fully understand the role of the proTrump alt right ie white nationalist movement in their support to both Trump and their intertwining with Russian information warfare trolls and bots...
The Alt-Right Branding War Has Torn the Movement in Two
By Andrew Marantz
6 JUL 2017
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-d...ovement-in-two
Well worth reading as it is important to understand just how these two proTrump social media support systems are being pushed and played by Russian info warfare using Russian trolls and bots...on a daily basis...
The phrase “alternative right” has been critiqued on several grounds: that it’s too vague; that it obscures the extent to which the movement is coterminous with the rest of the Republican base; that it’s a euphemism for white supremacy. The definition has shifted over time, both inside and outside the movement, such that, for a while, it was impossible to tell whether any two people who referred to the alt-right were referring to the same thing. During the Presidential campaign, the term came to denote several intersecting phenomena: anti-feminism, opposition to political correctness, online abuse, belligerent nihilism, conspiracy theories, inflammatory Internet memes. Some pro-Trump activists adopted this big-tent definition, allowing any youthful, “edgy” critique of establishment conservatism to be considered alt-right. But a core within the movement always insisted on a narrower conception of the alt-right, one that was inextricably linked with white separatism, and with Spencer specifically.
Now the boundaries are set. Spencer and his allies have won the branding war. They own the alt-right label; their right-wing opponents are aligning themselves against it, working to establish a parallel brand. It has become increasingly clear that this is not a mere rhetorical ploy but a distinction with a difference.It is now a battle between the white nationalists behind Mike Cernovich and white supremacist Spencer who is married to a Russian with former ties to Russian Today in RussiaDuring the Presidential campaign, the term alt right came to denote several intersecting phenomena: anti-feminism, opposition to political correctness, online abuse, belligerent nihilism, conspiracy theories, inflammatory Internet memes. Some pro-Trump activists adopted this big-tent definition, allowing any youthful, “edgy” critique of establishment conservatism to be considered alt-right. But a core within the movement always insisted on a narrower conception of the alt-right, one that was inextricably linked with white separatism, and with Spencer specifically.
Now the boundaries are set. Spencer and his allies have won the branding war. They own the alt-right label; their right-wing opponents are aligning themselves against it, working to establish a parallel brand. It has become increasingly clear that this is not a mere rhetorical ploy but a distinction with a difference.
Cernovich was behind the twitter campaigns using the hashtags CNNBlcakmail, Syrianhoax and Marconleaks...which got picked up by the US Nazi Party and Russian trolls and bots...
Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 07-07-2017 at 02:14 PM.
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