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    Note that the local African wire services have a different take on this incident.

    interview from 05OCT2017

    A deadly ambush near the Niger-Mali border on 4 October marked the unprecedented killing of American and Nigerien forces in the region. In this Q&A, Deputy West Africa Project Director Jean-Herv Jezequel and Research Assistant Hamza Cherbib say that jihadist violence cannot be divorced from deeper inter-communal tensions related to local competition over resources and illicit economic activity.
    http://allafrica.com/stories/201710060005.html

    Note the differences in the description of Friendly Forces here, vs my previous post.

    What happened and where?
    According to U.S. and Nigerien security sources, on 4 October 2017 a mixed patrol of U.S. and Nigerien special forces was ambushed near Tongo Tongo, a village located in the Tillabery region (about 120km north of the capital, Niamey), a few kilometres from the border with Mali. The precise death toll is still uncertain but at least five Nigerien and three U.S. soldiers were killed. Several others are wounded or missing, and Nigerien sources say the patrol's vehicles were looted or destroyed.
    The patrol may have been attacked by jihadists operating in the region, but there was no early claim of responsibility and what happened may only become clear over time. U.S. troops are supporting Nigerien armed forces fighting jihadists in at least two locations in the country, Aguelal and Diffa. The U.S. also is present elsewhere in Niger (and the region): it is establishing a drone and airbase near Agadez (northern Niger) and its forces are present at Niamey airport where they share space with French and Nigerien forces.
    This is not the first attack against security forces in the area. Indeed, Nigerien forces have suffered repeated attacks there since early 2017, including against the special counter-terrorism unit whose men are trained by the U.S. But this is the first attack to have claimed the lives of U.S. soldiers.

    What is known about jihadist groups in the area?
    In recent months, several attacks targeting security forces near the Mali-Niger border have been claimed by the Islamic State in the Greater Sahara (ISGS), the Islamic State's local branch led by Abou Walid Al Sahraoui. This includes a raid on the Koutoukale prison in October 2016 that was fended off by Nigerien security forces.
    Another recent attack was claimed by the Jamaat Nosrat al-Islam wal-Mouslimin (JNIM, the "Group for the support of Islam and the Muslims"), a jihadist coalition of militant groups with a history of cooperation that was established in March 2017. JNIM's leader, Iyad Ag Ghali, a Malian Tuareg, declared his allegiance to al-Qaeda and other top leaders of the group have well established al-Qaeda ties.
    Background readings: http://allafrica.com/view/group/main.../00053764.html

    Wherethehellisthisplacemap http://www.rain4sahara.org/our-work/...work/tillaberi
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    Got irritated at the lack of orienting graphics and such, whistled up the appropriate 1;500,000 maps.

    Nimay @ Lat 13 ° 30' / Long 2 °
    http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/tpc/t...34566_k-2b.jpg

    Teguey just east of Lat 14 ° 30' / Long 0 ° 30'
    http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/tpc/t...34566_k-2a.jpg

    Also
    A longer-than-expected meeting with local tribal leaders in Niger may have given militants critical extra minutes to prep the ambush attack that left four American troops dead earlier this month, two U.S. officials told Fox News on Friday.
    A dozen U.S. Army soldiers, mostly Green Berets, along with 30 Nigeriens, had traveled 125 miles north from their base at Niger’s capital, Niamey, in unarmored trucks on a routine mission and to meet with local village elders in Tonga Tonga, near the border with Mali.

    After the meeting with the village elders ended, the U.S.-led patrol was ambushed by roughly 50 militants.

    French aircraft were overhead within 30 minutes, however, they did not fire because they couldn't positively identify who was who on the ground.

    A senior defense official told Fox News the U.S. troops were fired on once they were already in their vehicles. The vehicles then scrambled to “get off the X” -- escaping the ambush site using evasive driving maneuvers -- and a gunfight ensued.
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/10...cials-say.html
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    Amidst the deluge of reporting now, very little by people familiar with Niger, this passage is important:
    Retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Rudy Atallah, the man Trump nearly hired as his National Security Council's’ senior director for Africa, said that Niger is a difficult posting for U.S. service members due to the lack of communication between their camps, the Nigerien military, and the civilians they are purportedly there to help protect. “We don’t have very good intelligence information on what the threat looks like or how it’s growing and [U.S. troops] don’t have the support of local population,” Atallah said. “Our folks don’t spend a lot of time gripping and grinning with the locals, and the locals don’t know what our guys are doing.”
    Link:https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...s-attack/54353

    You'd think by now AFRICOM deployed enough staff with the right language skills, after all there has been a presence in Niger since the early 2000's, with troop rotations since 2011.

    Another report referred to SAR being provided by contractors.
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    Plot Twist, or why the first part of the Intel guy's briefing on weather is important.

    Niger Floods Leaves Tens of Thousands Homeless
    Widespread flooding has killed at least 56 people since the rainy season began in June, and left over 185,000 homeless, according to the interior ministry.
    http://allafrica.com/view/group/main.../00055447.html
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    http://allafrica.com/stories/201708310338.html
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    Some curious information in this NYT report:
    American troops who came under fire in Niger...might have waited more than an hour before calling for help....one reason might be that they thought they could fight back against the Islamic State-affiliated militants who attacked them.

    Though helicopters did not arrive until an hour after the troops called for help, a drone arrived overhead in minutes, General Dunford said, though he would not say whether it was armed.
    Link:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/23/w...-dunford.html?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    Some curious information
    By 'curious', you mean more and more it's sounding like a complete Charlie Foxtrot?

    Sources for this ABC report basically says the same thing.
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/died-...ry?id=50670787

    What was started as a reconnaissance mission to meet with local leaders turned into a kill-or-capture mission aimed at a high-value target, according to both sources.
    *
    “They should have been up and back in a day. Because they were up there so f------ long on a mission that morphed, they were spotted, surveilled and ultimately hit,” the official said.
    *
    Their pre-mission threat assessment never considered the possibility of 50 to 60 enemy combatants attacking them, according to the official.
    *
    On their way back, the team received a call from the base back in Niamey, asking them to turn around and kill or capture a high-value target who is a known al Qaeda and ISIS operative, according to two senior officials.
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    The team arrived at the target location in the early morning hours of Oct. 4, but found nothing. They burned the remnants of the abandoned campsite and headed back south as the sun came up, stopping back through a nearby village called Tongo Tongo around 8:30 AM.
    There, the Nigerien force requested they stop to eat, while U.S. soldiers met with a village elder, who was “obviously and deliberately trying to stall them,” according to the official.
    “He was definitely stalling as long as he could to keep us there,” the survivor said, saying he had an entourage, showed the unit a child with an illness, and even grabbed a goat he wanted to prepare for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamG View Post
    By 'curious', you mean more and more it's sounding like a complete Charlie Foxtrot?
    From my "armchair" I would not reach such a conclusion.

    Sadly the deaths have aroused far greater political and media attention to Niger and AFRICOM's activity.

    The Soufan Report's latest comment ends with:
    The pace of joint operations in Africa involving U.S. personnel will likely increase in the foreseeable future, as the conditions that help fuel terrorist and insurgent groups continue to worsen.
    Link:http://www.soufangroup.com/tsc-intel...bush-in-niger/

    There is an older thread on Niger, with mainly historical posts:Niger: a Sahel country bumping along (catch all)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamG View Post
    By 'curious', you mean more and more it's sounding like a complete Charlie Foxtrot?
    Complete
    Charlie
    Foxtrot.

    ...soldiers who survived the ambush and villagers who witnessed it point to a series of intelligence failures and strategic miscalculations that left the American soldiers far from base, in hostile territory longer than planned, with no backup or air support, on a mission they had not expected to perform.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-soldiers.html
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