Debates and Divisions within al-Qa’ida and its Periphery

[goesh]

I think hugs and alot of Mr. Rogers shows could go a long ways in convincing jihadists that it simply isn't nice to kill people. A kinder, gentler US military could go a long ways in persuading the rest of the planet that we know deep in our hearts that the world is really just one large village. For instance, when a patrol of US forces comes under fire in Iraq, they could throw some firecrackers in the direction of those trying to kill them, thus indicating that there is a high potential that US troops might defend themselves when attacked. Such a show of good faith on our part could go a long ways and result in some genuine dialouge with those fellows. It has been suggested that our troops patrol in Barney costumes, thus demonstrating to AQ and other assorted jihadists that we do not always have lethal intentions for those who try to kill us. Personally, I think our men would sweat too much dressed as Barney and could impose additional logistical stress providing them with extra water, unless Iraqi kids could be hired to tag along behind pulling little red wagons full of water bottles. Anyway, I am straying off topic here.

Regarding conversion, I most likely would become a jihadist advisor if presented the opportunity to have a cushy, well paid job in such capacity and in knowing that none of my family would be killed and I wouldn't have my nuts crushed in a vise and an electrode inserted in my anus. Hello? Aren't Egypt, Syria and Jordan the designated torture centers of the planet? Ain't they the final destination of black ops snatch and grab missions or have I been reading too many of those magazines by the checkout counters in grocery stores??

[tequila]

Jedburgh posted a Jamestown analysis on a similar Saudi program here.

[Evan]

Maybe he read Tolstoy's "The Kingdom of God is Within You".

At any rate simply renouncing violence does not make one less radical or less of a threat to those in power. An example? Ask Winston Churchill who's governments solidly defeated Hitler but, effectively, lost to Gahandi. I could tell you about ML King but we've all been there, so how about Keith McHenry. He's an anarchist radical whose Food Not Bombs is the fastest growing revolutionary movement in the US. Maybe you never herd of him and don't thing he's a threat; the FBI disagrees with you.

Wait! Wait! and my favorite radical of all, Jesus the messiah himself.

I think this should be considered more a change of tactic than a capitulation.

Evan

[AdamG]

The Rebellion Within
An Al Qaeda mastermind questions terrorism.
by Lawrence Wright
June 2, 2008

Last May, a fax arrived at the London office of the Arabic newspaper Asharq Al Awsat from a shadowy figure in the radical Islamist movement who went by many names. Born Sayyid Imam al-Sharif, he was the former leader of the Egyptian terrorist group Al Jihad, and known to those in the underground mainly as Dr. Fadl. Members of Al Jihad became part of the original core of Al Qaeda; among them was Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden’s chief lieutenant. Fadl was one of the first members of Al Qaeda’s top council.

Twenty years ago, he wrote two of the most important books in modern Islamist discourse; Al Qaeda used them to indoctrinate recruits and justify killing. Now Fadl was announcing a new book, rejecting Al Qaeda’s violence. “We are prohibited from committing aggression, even if the enemies of Islam do that,” Fadl wrote in his fax, which was sent from Tora Prison, in Egypt.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...urrentPage=all

[120mm]

Seriously, the prospects for peaceful conversion I think are much better, long term, for "Jihad".

But as fast as Islam spreads through population exportation and conversion, "western contamination" will spread just as fast, or faster, which I think would be a greater threat to conservative/tribal Islam.

[Sarajevo071]

But as fast as Islam spreads through population exportation and conversion, "western contamination" will spread just as fast, or faster, which I think would be a greater threat to conservative/tribal Islam.

You never fail to crack me up!
thanx

[SWJED]

You never fail to crack me up!
thanx

... brings up a very valid point. Let loose the hounds of Hollywood, MTV and other icons of American pop culture. They are feared more by the so-called Islamic extremists than anything the US military can throw their way.