I have to agree with Steve:

"If we fight as fiercely as our enemies, we're no better than them."

That's not what people are saying. They're saying "Torture is wrong and it doesn't work anyway."

"War doesn't change anything."

I don't know anyone who thought Chamberlain was right and Churchill was wrong.

"If we just leave, the Iraqis will patch up their differences on their own."

That's not what people are saying. They're saying. "Why should we spend $2 trillion in Iraq when we can't even secure our own borders?"

They're also saying there were no weapons of mass destruction, Iran is a bigger threat than Iraq, that we need more troops in Afghanistan and that troop deployments are too long and placing too large a burden on military families.