Quote Originally Posted by nichols View Post
it is a clear cut clash of cultures.
Quote Originally Posted by Ken White View Post
there is little we can do to bring the conflict in Iraq to an eventual end. Such end will be mostly up to the Iraqis and to a lesser extent up to us and in varying still lesser amounts (and in no particular order) to the Turks, the Syrians, the Saudis, the Iranians and various Islamist factions.

If both these statements are true, then the only way we can win is by changing the culture of Iraq, Turkey, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran and various Islamic factions.