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    Hi Mr Odom:

    Have you read the book of John Stockwell about the angolan operation in 1976.

    Did he mention the zairian army in his book?

    I heard there were british mercenaries with FNLA in 1976.Their chief was Callan.The bristish mercenaries were defeated by cubans and MPLA.

    Do you know how many bristish mercenaries were in Angola in 1975-76?

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    Yes I have read Stockwell on Angola

    Ibid.; Colin Legum, "Zaire," in Africa Contemporary Record: Annual Survey and Documents 1976-1977, vol. 9 (New York: Africana Publishing Co., 1977), B534-35 (hereafter referred to as ACR 76-77. For a firsthand account of the CIA operation to funnel money and supplies to support this war, see John Stockwell, In Search of Enemies: A CIA Story (New York: W. W. Norton, 1978). For a firsthand account of two mercenaries involved with the operation, see Chris Dempster and Dave Tomkins, Fire Power (New York: St. Martin's Press, 1980).
    That's why I have it in my endnotes for the Shaba II book.

    Let's talk rules of engagement here, Cuba. I appreciate that you are a student and that you have an interest in the area of Africa I served in and wrote about. I am flattered that you ask questions.

    But if you want help, then you have to read what is offered. Most of the questions you have asked have been in the 2 books I suggested that you read. You have continued to ask questions indicating that at best you have scanned what I gave you.

    I don't know how your professors react to this approach but here is mine. Read the books. Then ask questions. Otherwise don't ask me to answer questions I answered in the two books you have yet to read.

    Tom

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    Hi Tom,How are you?

    I read you article:

    http://cgsc.leavenworth.army.mil/car...dom2/odom2.asp

    After the collapse of the Simba Rebellion and subsequent mercenary revolts, Belgium nearly lost its predominance in the Congo's mining industry.

    So We can say that Simba rebellion was totally defeated by ANC and Tshombe.

    But you wrote this:

    Notwithstanding this declaration, the rebels continued fighting in scattered areas over the next decade.

    I thought Simbas were totally defeated in 1965.

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    After the collapse of the Simba Rebellion and subsequent mercenary revolts, Belgium nearly lost its predominance in the Congo's mining industry.

    So We can say that Simba rebellion was totally defeated by ANC and Tshombe.
    No we cannot; you said that.

    Notwithstanding this declaration, the rebels continued fighting in scattered areas over the next decade.

    I thought Simbas were totally defeated in 1965.
    The rebellion as a movement was defeated. elements of it survived and in fact are still present in the current Congo.

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    Tom,thanks for the answer.

    I have read that after 1967,Mobutu could control all the region.

    But the region between Fizi and Baraka belonged to Kabila but Kabila was not a threat to Mobutu in that remote place.

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