from Stan
BTW, wasn't it Estonia's "Finnish Boys" who came to the aid of Finland
the Estonians learned how to swim ? Will wonders never cease.

(Semi-)seriously, would not it be nice if Ingria were a province of Estonia, or of Finland, or an independent state - and that Ivan was land-locked from the Baltic ? Fairy tale, unfortunately.

We'll just have to be patient on the NATO thing. Finns take a while to make up their minds. It's the mutta thing - put three Finns in a room and out comes 6 very different political parties.