I made the mistake of starting this discussion with a post from Robb, and now the focus is on Robb instead of the real issue the nexus between transnational crime and terrorism, and the so what factor of it all. A lick on me, but in an attempt to get the discussion focused once again...
http://search.loc.gov:8765/query.htm...13&submit.y=19
This is another excerpt from the interagency study posted to the Library of Congress website. It is well researched; however, this assessment made in 2002 couldn't be more off the mark. While half of it is on the mark, you have probably seen the reports on the documentaries on their counter intelligence capabilities, but so much for cooperation between the gangs. Greed is greed, and the groups are fighting one another and the government to gain a bigger share of the action.Mexico’s three major drug cartels are being superseded by a half-dozen smaller, corporate style, trafficking networks. In a process that mirrors the post-cartel reconstitution of drug trafficking networks in Colombia, this “new generation” of Mexican drug traffickers is less prone to violence and more likely to employ sophisticated technologies and cooperative strategies. The processes that are driving Mexican drug trafficking organizations toward establishing cooperative networks of increasing sophistication and decreasing visibility are likely to intensify in the post-September 11 environment. As a result, Mexican drug trafficking networks are likely to emulate their Colombian counterparts by investing heavily in counterintelligence, expanding and diversifying their legitimate enterprises, and concealing transnational partnerships that could attract undue attention from U.S. intelligence and law enforcement agencies
Failure to see the significance of this threat is extremely dangerous in my opinion, and it parallels our failure to prevent the attacks on 9/11 due to our lack of imagination. We're not talking simply rifles, p-shooters and marajuana, but billions of dollars of illicit trade, major weapons systems to include surface to air missiles, and a dangerous network that can facilitate reach throughout the entire U.S.A.
There are two issues here:
These criminal enterprises are not just competing against governments, they are subverting governments (replacing governments in many areas) and in many ways they are insurgencies without an ideology (and I don't like agreeing with Robb). They will shift with the markets, and if Middle Eastern Terrorists are paying top dollar (or with drugs) to smuggle their folks into the U.S. or for weapons the criminal enterprises will provide the goods and services. More than ever are available since the end of the Cold War.
The information is all available open source, numerous organized criminal elements and now terrorist organizations opening shop in Mexico so they can link into the services and products provided by the Mexican Mafia because of the access they can provide to the good ole U.S.A. and its markets. The Mexican mafia has a well established and growing network in almost all 50 states. This is just one example, there are other examples of other criminal in in Europe and Asia that provide the similiar services and products. The nexus isn't new, just more dangerous than it has been in the past.
As for inviting Robb to the forum good luck. I tried to debate him on his website based on some of his interpretations of history and when he couldn't respond to the first challenge he replied I don't think you should participate here He is another Rush Limbaugh in some respects, just another loud mouth with very little depth. He isn't a Lind or Hammes, he is a software geek that likes to frame problems using software and networking terms. The most amusing aspect is he seems to believe he is the only one who gets it, but on the other hand, based on some of the comments throughout this council, he may have a point. There appears to be a significant lack of understanding of emerging threats. Hiding behind the myth of it isn't anything new reminds me of the three monkeys (see no evil, heaar no evil, speak no evil). New or not, it is still a problem that needs to be dealt with.
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