CSC2005 If you ever get the chance watch "Ace in the Hole" on the History channel. It has been on many times but it is about how a US Army major got so fed up with all the tech stuff and started analyzing how to find Saddam using paper and pencil techniques I learned years ago in LE. It gives a lot of credence to you suggestions but it doesn't seem to be having much effect on the military. If it doesn't cost a lot of money and have gadgets it must not be any good. Oh well some day maybe we will learn.