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    Armies have had lots of clever ways of trying to guess this stuff for years, but you always come down to the same problem, and that is numbers matter.

    It's no good having a couple of Uber-studs, when a mob of reasonable-studs would accomplish the mission. Obviously there are jobs and tasks that do require some very determined and cool men, but they make an incredibly small percentage of any armed force.

    Fascinating article though, a surprising a airing of some of the information therein!
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    Mr Aikins said his next goal was to identify mental exercises or drugs that could protect people from high levels of stress. Guardian News & Media

    You mean like this?

    Example is better than precept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William F. Owen View Post
    Armies have had lots of clever ways of trying to guess this stuff for years...but they make an incredibly small percentage of any armed force.
    There's gotta be a pony in there somewhere...

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    Default Soooo.....

    I should live fast and hope I make it past 50?
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    Why did you not clear your corner?

    Because we are on a base and it is secure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODB View Post
    I should live fast and hope I make it past 50?
    Your close enough to SGM and they dont count in those study's
    Their too stubborn to give up that easily
    Any man can destroy that which is around him, The rare man is he who can find beauty even in the darkest hours

    Cogitationis poenam nemo patitur

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    Lightbulb But....

    therein lies the problem. Want nothing to do with being a SGM, not looking forward to the labotomy that comes with it......and the endless meetings....spent 3 hours in those today alone...does acting CSM count?

    Guess maybe I could live with the labotomy if it gets me past 50
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    Default No, no, no -- I found a better way...

    Quote Originally Posted by ODB View Post
    Guess maybe I could live with the labotomy if it gets me past 50
    Drink lots of Bourbon, that way, see, you kill all these brain cells and you don't have to get the lobotomy. Works, believe me -- also has a beneficial side effect, it makes you unable to hold meetings so you have to do your job by walking around and talking to people...

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    This part caught my eye

    Morgan analyzed the heartbeats of soldiers and sailors before they experienced major stress. Sure enough, the ones with metronomic heartbeats performed the best in survival school and underwater navigation testing. They also did the best in what's called close-quarters combat training. Morgan analyzed their heart rates right before they went into mock battle. They were all suited up in combat gear, waiting for a buzzer to ring that would send them running into a building to "kill" the enemy and rescue hostages. (They use "simunitions," simulated ammunition that hurts but doesn't cause real harm.) The ones with metronomic heartbeats, Morgan says, shoot more bad guys and kill fewer hostages. Unfortunately, this metronomic effect is usually associated with early heart disease and even sudden death. Morgan wonders whether the same thing that makes you really good at surviving under high stress may not translate into excellent heart health when you're 50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken White View Post
    Drink lots of Bourbon, that way, see, you kill all these brain cells and you don't have to get the lobotomy. Works, believe me -- also has a beneficial side effect, it makes you unable to hold meetings so you have to do your job by walking around and talking to people...
    Always thought of drinking as a way to become smarter. If drinking kills brain cells then according to Darwin theory just the weak ones die, therefore I only have the strong brain cells left. The rate I'm going I'll be blowing Einstein away here in matter of a few weeks.
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    Why did you not clear your corner?

    Because we are on a base and it is secure.

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