Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
'Failed states' and 'ungoverned spaces' are not exclusive to the developed world, a point IMHO and reading the thread has not been explicit.

In many cities the extent of nation-state control is minimal; this has featured in a thread on Brazilian and Mexican cities.
Excellent point! Personally, I think the whole idea of "ungoverned spaces" is a huge "so what?" 911 could have been planned in Canada. The whole premise of calling somewhere "ungoverned" seems to be a precursor for "we should govern it."