Where did???

[slapout9]

That say's it all! Could not have put it better myself. Maybe worth another thread!

I know it is expensive but if you get a copy of the SOE Syllybus they pretty much will be following it. Wilf, if you can get a copy read the section on small unit tactics and formations, I would like your opinion on this. Everytime time you use the expression War should be Iron Bar Simple I think of this section.

[William F. Owen]

I know it is expensive but if you get a copy of the SOE Syllybus they pretty much will be following it. Wilf, if you can get a copy read the section on small unit tactics and formations, I would like your opinion on this. Everytime time you use the expression War should be Iron Bar Simple I think of this section.

OK, off to look for it now. I'm pretty sure it'll follow the 1941 Infantry Instructor's manual, but I'll not prejudge it, and as my Grandfather was the SOE K-Pol (now called POLAD - TOM ODOM take note! ) I am emotionally pre-disposed to it!

[Bill Moore]

Posted by Wild Bob,

Though, I did send my boss a two pager Friday on why AFG is neither a war, nor CT, nor COIN; but that it is simply campaign in a larger effort to counter the regional Unconventional Warfare campaign being waged by AQ.

You can't be a true wild man if you only slip white papers to your boss. You need to rock the system like Washington, MLK, Ghandi, Cory Aquino, etc. I recall we all had a chance to respond to a JFCOM request a few weeks ago about the potential need to redefine IW and possibly develop a new doctrine for it. Apparently I was the lone voice out there (according to their website) that called for a new doctrine, everyone else was apparently content with relying on our current COIN, FID, UW, SO, and CT doctrine. I wondered where my SF brothers were, not those in the halls of doctrine, as they have taken a momentary leave of their senses, but the voices from the field?

I non-concurred for the reasons you listed, cause most common folks simply want to put the problem set in a familiar box, and presto we have an instant doctrinal solution, no further study required. So we start off with defining the problem incorrectly and then consequently apply the wrong the strategy. When it doesn't work, we think we have to apply more of the same strategy. We don't question if our original premise was wrong to begin with.

When I think of Wild Bill Donovan (from reading his biography) I think of a no nonsense guy who defied the rules and got the job done. He was smart, open minded, and carried a large set of gonads. What was the name of that movie where Clint Eastwood was a Marine Gunny when they invaded Grenada? I loved it when the well portrayed conventional officer said you're the type of Marine that should be locked away with a sign that says break glass only in time of war (something along those lines). Well we're at war, let's break the glass.

[Tom Odom]

OK, off to look for it now. I'm pretty sure it'll follow the 1941 Infantry Instructor's manual, but I'll not prejudge it, and as my Grandfather was the SOE K-Pol (now called POLAD - TOM ODOM take note! ) I am emotionally pre-disposed to it!

Bloody hell!

Wilf has come out of the closet...

[davidbfpo]

Bill,

What was the name of that movie where Clint Eastwood was a Marine Gunny when they invaded Grenada? I loved it when the well portrayed conventional officer said you're the type of Marine that should be locked away with a sign that says break glass only in time of war (something along those lines).

It was Heartbreak Ridge, from 1986: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091187/

davidbfpo