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    New CIA Theme Song

    WASHINGTON – CIA director Leon Panetta is warning his employees that leakers will be investigated and possibly prosecuted after a flurry of reports in the media about the technology and methods used to track and ultimately kill Osama bin Laden.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110518/...us_cia_leaks_1
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    Default Examining Counterterrorism’s Success Stories (part title)

    The full title of this analysis by the Heritage Foundation is: '39 Terror Plots Foiled Since 9/11: Examining Counterterrorism’s Success Stories – Analysis':http://www.eurasiareview.com/39-terr...ysis-20052011/

    It is useful for the list of plots, the
    ..six key principles for policymakers
    are different and the
    ..lessons about what works in terms of stopping terrorism..
    are questionable from this armchair across the Atlantic.

    I was surprised to see this:
    Lesson # 9: Current Aviation Security Is Expensive and Largely Inconsequential.
    and the comments under the Miranda Warning in effect extending interview without a lawyer etc are a double-edged weapon.

    Finally there are:
    Essential Principles for Congress and the Administration
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    Default Old ways work well - if used!

    I'm sure there is a post on the value of fingerprints in CT, but too may matches on fingerprints and so added here.

    ...federal authorities unknowingly had evidence that already linked him a roadside bomb in his home country 2005.

    National security experts said the 21-month lapse in linking fingerprints from the bomb to the suspect shows poor communication among the several federal agencies in charge of anti-terrorism efforts.
    Link:http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...93f318b64aed4d

    I am puzzled that this suspect was even given asylum, an issue that appears not to have been picked up in the report.
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    Well it seems that a spotlight is to be directed at this matter:http://www.npr.org/2011/06/08/137033...ugee-screening

    It includes a CT expert commenting:
    Here, as I understand it, the real intent was not just to come to the United States, but rather for Alwan to seek the so-called golden passport, the U.S. passport, so he could travel freely and raise fewer suspicions around the world
    I note to date there is no reporting on how both men got asylum. My assumption was to claim - after working for the USA - they were in danger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    I note to date there is no reporting on how both men got asylum. My assumption was to claim - after working for the USA - they were in danger.
    I have no idea how the process of approving or denying asylum works but I get the impression that there are a lot of hands in the pot and that there are a lot of places where the process can go wrong. There is a wonderfully good This American Life entitled “Iraq after us”—check out the first act for the story of a fellow who seems worthy of a visa to the U.S. but for reasons that are unclear is not receiving one.
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    Default Just how real is the “homegrown” Islamist terrorist threat?

    An intriguing spreadsheet to use:http://homegrown.newamerica.net/table

    the author's explain:
    Just how real is the “homegrown” Islamist terrorist threat? The New America Foundation and Syracuse University’s Maxwell School of Public Policy have examined the post-9/11 cases of Americans or U.S. residents convicted or charged of some form of jihadist terrorist activity, as well as the cases of those American citizens who have traveled overseas to join a terrorist group.

    Preliminary results of that research are available below. You may sort the table by any of the columns, or click on an individual's name for full details and reference sources.
    Probably a unique information source.
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    (CNSNews.com) - As the United States Postal Service looks at ways to cut budgets and deal with declining revenue, the president of the National Association of Letter Carriers is going against the grain by suggesting the agency should be increasing the services offered, including thwarting terrorists.
    President of The National Association of Letter Carriers Fredric Rolando, has several ideas to increase the responsibility of some postal workers. Among them is to outfit postal trucks with sensors so letter carriers can thwart biological terrorist attacks, according to recent reports.
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    Two men who converted to Islam have been arrested and charged by federal authorities with plotting a Ft. Hood-style assault on a Seattle military installation in which they could kill military personnel and then either escape or die as "martyrs."

    Abu Khalid Abdul-Latif, born Joseph Anthony Davis, and Walli Mujahidh, born Frederick Domingue Jr., are accused of planning to attack the Military Entrance Processing Station in Seattle with grenades and machine guns on July 5. Abdul-Latif, 33, and Mujahidh, 32, allegedly purchased machine guns from undercover agents to use in the assault. Their alleged objective was to deter further American military action in Islamic countries.

    The defendants allegedly planned to attack Joint Base Lewis-McChord, a sprawling Army and Air Force installation south of Seattle that houses almost 20,000 military personnel and family members, but then changed targets. The Military Entrance Processing Station on East Marginal Way in Seattle is where enlistees report.
    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/prison...ry?id=13915159

    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...e_terror_plot/
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    At least one U.S. military serviceman has been arrested after raising concerns over another alleged plot to attack Fort Hood, Fox News has learned exclusively.

    Pvt. Nasser Jason Abdo, an AWOL soldier from Fort Campbell, Kentucky, was arrested by the Killeen Police Department near Fort Hood and remains in custody there. Authorities, however, will not say if Abdo is the one who raised security concerns.

    Abdo was found with weapons and explosives at the time of his arrest, a senior Army source confirms to Fox News. He was arrested at around 2 p.m. Wednesday after someone called authorities to report a suspicious individual.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/28...#ixzz1TPzp0UKn
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    Default Abdo complaint, etc.

    are here. Vanilla Federal Court case - so far.

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    Default Clarity please

    JMM99,

    What please is a:
    Vanilla Federal Court case(?)
    I assume clear-cut, but lawyers use of words can often baffle.
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    Default Vanilla ....

    plain ice cream.

    In this case, so far, the complaint and affidavits charge a single-person crime (no conspiracy); single set of "bad things" (all to be assembled by the "single person"); and no alleged "outside influences" (such as al-Awlaki). The facts, so far, are about as simple as you can get - "bad stuff" (physical evidence) + defendant's admissions = conviction. At least that's how I'd want the case to present if I were the prosecutor.

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    JMM99,

    Thank you. Here we'd call it an "open & shut" case.

    (An aside. Criminal justice here still records a very high guilty plea level in cases heard before magistrates, not sure about at Crown court level; policing has moved away from a "confession" culture and IIRC a majority confess).
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    Thank you. Here we'd call it an "open & shut" case.
    In the States an open and shut case is one in which the outcome seems assured from the get-go. Not to put words in his mouth, but I think what jmm99 is more trying to get at with the term is that the case looks pretty straightforward (as in “nothing particularly exotic”) at this point. A bit of a fine semantic distinction to be sure, and I could be wrong, of course!
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    Default Yup, as in ....

    "the case looks pretty straightforward."

    If the charges (physical evidence + defendant's admissions) are proved beyond a reasonable doubt, then it will also be an "open & shut" case. If the physical evidence and admissions are excluded (to be determined by a pre-trial evidentiary hearing), the case evaporates.

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    Default Countering Domestic Radicalization

    A short report by the New America Foundation, full title 'Countering Domestic
    Radicalization: Lessons for Intelligence Collection and Community Outreach', published in June 2011 and just referred to on the CLS mailing:http://www.newamerica.net/sites/newa...calization.pdf

    Draws mainly on the experience of LA, London and NYC.
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    You won't see the American MSM trumpeting this threat like they do the dreaded "Right Wing Extremists":

    “Do we need a militant movement to save the planet (and ourselves)?”

    That was the question posed in recent article on the left-wing site Alternet when it interviewed a group of radical environmentalists who are allegedly endorsing “Decisive Ecological Warfare.” And in order to realize their goal of ridding the planet of industrial civilization — even modern agriculture — the group intends to employ tactics “of both militaries and insurgents the world over.”

    One of the activists, Derrick Jensen, allegedly even believes those who destroy the environment should be summarily executed: “If it were up to me, all the people associated with the Gulf oil spill, which is murdering the Gulf, would be executed. That would be part of the function of a state,” said Jensen.

    In addition to Jensen, the two other environmentalists interviewed in the article – Lierre Keith, and Aric McBay — have spearheaded a fringe movement called the “Deep Green Resistance” (with a book of the same name) that calls for “direct attacks on infrastructure” and an annihilation of civilization as we know it.
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/mili...gical-warfare/
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    Default FBI & informants

    An investigative journalism report on the use of informants by the FBI, I am curious that insiders spoke to them and was not surprised over some of the court documents. Nothing startling from my previous reading; I have not checked the database alongside.

    Link:http://motherjones.com/special-repor...ist-informants

    NPR have a summary:http://www.npr.org/2011/08/21/139836...ts?ft=1&f=1001

    An update on one informant who was dumped by the FBI:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...e-2153057.html
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    Default Langley on the Hudson

    A lengthy and revealing article on the NYPD Intelligence Division:

    With CIA help, NYPD moves covertly in hunt for terrorists, by Associated Press. New York Post, August 24, 2011.
    Since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the NYPD has become one of the country's most aggressive domestic intelligence agencies. A months-long investigation by The Associated Press has revealed that the NYPD operates far outside its borders and targets ethnic communities in ways that would run afoul of civil liberties rules if practiced by the federal government. And it does so with unprecedented help from the CIA in a partnership that has blurred the bright line between foreign and domestic spying.

    Neither the city council, which finances the department, nor the federal government, which contributes hundreds of millions of dollars each year, is told exactly what's going on.

    The department has dispatched teams of undercover officers, known as "rakers," into minority neighborhoods as part of a human mapping program, according to officials directly involved in the program. They've monitored daily life in bookstores, bars, cafes and nightclubs. Police have also used informants, known as "mosque crawlers," to monitor sermons, even when there's no evidence of wrongdoing. NYPD officials have scrutinized imams and gathered intelligence on cab drivers and food cart vendors, jobs often done by Muslims.

    Many of these operations were built with help from the CIA, which is prohibited from spying on Americans but was instrumental in transforming the NYPD's intelligence unit.

    A veteran CIA officer, while still on the agency's payroll, was the architect of the NYPD's intelligence programs. The CIA trained a police detective at the Farm, the agency's spy school in Virginia, then returned him to New York, where he put his new espionage skills to work inside the United States.

    And just last month, the CIA sent a senior officer to work as a clandestine operative inside police headquarters.

    While the expansion of the NYPD's intelligence unit has been well known, many details about its clandestine operations, including the depth of its CIA ties, have not previously been reported.
    “[S]omething in his tone now reminded her of his explanations of asymmetric warfare, a topic in which he had a keen and abiding interest. She remembered him telling her how terrorism was almost exclusively about branding, but only slightly less so about the psychology of lotteries…” - Zero History, William Gibson

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